Seoul Viosys begins production of rare-earth-free white light emitter

(semiconductor-today.com)

103 points | by gmays 4 hours ago

9 comments

  • Animats 2 hours ago
    > WICOP 3 generates white light from gallium nitride (GaN) alone.

    Gallium might be a problem. "China accounted for 99% of worldwide primary low-purity gallium production. The remaining primary low-purity gallium producers outside of China included Japan and Russia. Germany, Hungary, and Kazakhstan ceased primary production in 2016, 2015, and 2013, respectively. Ukraine most likely ceased primary production in 2022. Several new gallium production projects were announced including those in Australia, Canada, Greece, Kazakhstan, and the Republic of Korea."[1]

    The price of gallium has increased by a factor of 10 in the last 10 years. It's doubled since last year.[2] A huge new demand for gallium is going to be a problem.

    [1] https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2026/mcs2026-gallium.pd...

    [2] https://strategicmetalsinvest.com/gallium-prices/

    • clickety_clack 2 hours ago
      Is it just uneconomic to extract it in other countries? It seems to be a byproduct of aluminum and zinc mining, and those mines are very widespread.
      • throw-qqqqq 2 hours ago
        > Is it just uneconomic to extract it in other countries?

        Yes mostly. The West outsourced this market due to heavy environmental and financial costs of extracting it. It’s sort of the same story as for a lot of the rare earth elements.

    • 8note 2 hours ago
      Canada's is a addon to the aluminum production line, ao it might not take a whole ton to expand that production
    • jmyeet 30 minutes ago
      This is why I laugh every time somebody seriously suggests there's going to be a war with China because the West would collapse without Chinese exports. It's just not going to happen.

      The problem with outsourcing all your manufacturing so you can mildly increase profits and destroy any organized labor is that whoever you outsourced it to holds you hostage.

      Any talk of this is just propaganda to sell weapons and increase the "defense" budget.

      So gallium is a byproduct of bauxite mining but requires some sophistication. China produces 60% of the world's aluminum. India is the second largest producer but doesn't have the infrastructure to extract gallium. That will probably change. But it is a sophisticated process so you need an entire supply chain for that too. China has that. India does not (currently).

      But India would avoid the geopolitical issues of being dependent on China or Russia.

  • kkaske 3 hours ago
    What does the color look like? Producing light that falls within the white region of the CIE diagram is one thing… if it’s too yellow or too blue it could be an issue. Maybe that’s something that can be worked out over time.
    • joshspankit 2 hours ago
      Indeed. Would love to see a spectrograph
    • wyager 2 hours ago
      Even if it's perfectly centered on a nice blackbody point, if the spectral distribution is spiky, it will still look bad in real-world usage
  • vessenes 23 minutes ago
    Ooh, cool. I'd like me some luminous concrete please. I like these order of magnitude changes in common technology -- in this case, way smaller minimum size and more efficient per square nanometer -- the use cases language is a good reminder that the innovation part ("Look! This is cool!") often (usually?) precedes the most compelling use cases.

    I imagine this is like 20 years away from hitting consumer design, but I bet it'll be used for some cool stuff.

  • phendrenad2 15 minutes ago
    I wonder if we'll ever see nanotech xenon arc lamps.
  • Imustaskforhelp 3 hours ago
    > Seoul Biosys plans to broaden its technology applications to augmented reality (AR) displays and optical communication for artificial intelligence (AI) data transmission. They are also developing a method to transmit data using densely arranged micro LEDs around 10µm in size.

    Can someone who is an expert on the topic comment about if the statement regarding AI is true and if so then by how much (and how big/small of a problem it is), or if the Company is suggesting it out of pure hype of AI mania.

    > Market research firm Omdia projects that the micro LED display market revenue will grow from $10.54 million this year to approximately $6.8 billion by 2032, particularly in applications for smart glasses and ultra-small displays.

    > The WICOP technology involves directly mounting LED chips onto substrates without separate wires or packaging. Seoul Semiconductor and Seoul Biosys have been developing ultraviolet (UV), blue, green, red, and infrared (IR) micro LEDs based on this technology, and have now expanded its application to include white light.

    Fascinating results nonetheless even discounting AI use. Having half the price is insane, also 10.54 million seems incredibly small and 6.8 Billion is a little insane. Kinda wild to see such massive growth expected in such short amount of time.

    • toast0 3 hours ago
      > > optical communication for artificial intelligence (AI) data transmission.

      > if the Company is suggesting it out of pure hype of AI mania.

      IMHO, this is pretty transparently r&d for better? data transmission attached to the trend of the day that does a lot of data transmission. Where better is higher bandwidth, lower cost, etc.

      AI is the current trendy thing, but better data transmission will always have applications.

      • ChrisMarshallNY 2 hours ago
        I remember attending a "pitch night," at a local incubator, about nine or ten years ago, when crypto was the new hotness.

        One of the pitches was for a fairly good nonprofit service. I thought it was a good idea. Sort of a "help people that help people" thing. I can dig that.

        At the very end of the pitch, the last thing the young lady said, was "And we're looking at implementing blockchain technology in our service."

        I don't remember exactly what the service was, but it clearly had no applications for distributed-key tech.

        I think it probably cost her the backing. No one was fooled. I think someone told her that she had to mention blockchain, somewhere.

    • NetMageSCW 51 minutes ago
      Seems like pretty good for TV backlighting?
  • wiml 3 hours ago
    The article is riddled with AI errors (for example, the company's name is Viosys, not Biosys).

    Looks like the innovation here is the multi-wavelength LED, some kind of multiple-quantum-well thing maybe?

    • dang 3 hours ago
      Yikes. We've changed the URL from https://www.ajupress.com/view/20261028171670308 (and banned that site). I replaced it with the article that Google returns for the title, which looks like it might be the original source, or at least closer to it.
    • snailmailman 2 hours ago
      Fwiw korean doesnt have a ‘V’ sound/character at all, and the V/B switch is quite common on Korean words that come from English. For example, “video” in Korean gets written with ㅂ at the start, and sounds more like “bideo”. And the same character is used in the Korean/Hangul version of their written company name.
  • kettlecrisp99 12 minutes ago
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  • coderintherye 3 hours ago
    Seems the AI translation changed the name a bit as it is Seoul Viosys, at least according to their website https://www.seoulviosys.com/en
  • ZeroDayDreamer 2 hours ago
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