13 comments

  • byte_0 17 minutes ago
    This week, I asked Claude Code to generate an MD to continue working on another computer, without losing the context, and it refused claming some sort of extraction. It was only until I selected Opus, that it completed the request.
  • tristanj 1 hour ago
    This user is based in Hong Kong, where Claude is geo-blocked and not available. If you try visiting claude.ai from a Hong Kong IP address, you get an "unavailable in this region" message.

    They are likely accessing Claude via a VPN. Doing model training work over a VPN is a highly suspicious signal, and likely triggers Anthropic's classifiers. It's not surprising that their account got flagged.

    • leobuskin 1 hour ago
      US/EU here (both, due to traveling), same story with anything related to modifying existing weights or SotA approaches in training/research, it's not a geolocation issue. The safeguards don't check your IP (but pretty soon will check someone's IP [pun intended])
      • alansaber 1 hour ago
        I've read writeups about a user trust score and i'd be surprised if it wasn't true, there's no way the safeguard is just a cls in isolation
  • clcaev 41 minutes ago
    Perhaps a manifest index/list of training data and learning method should be mandatory for “public” use of any model, sort of like food ingredient package labeling. The list of texts used and any weighting seems important to facilitate a public understanding / debate of model expectations and behavior.
  • ktosobcy 47 minutes ago
    > You built your models on the world's data

    most important bit…: stealing world's data…

    • jquery 19 minutes ago
      You wouldn't download a car
  • dcl 21 minutes ago
    Will Claude help me with reinforcement learning code for games? Or is that too small-fry for it to refuse? I've been playing around with RL with the new DeepSeek Flash model but it seems to trip up over itself a bit.
  • schleck8 17 minutes ago
    This is not a ban, but the Opus 5.5 "safeguard" interrupting a query.
  • mapontosevenths 45 minutes ago
    I'm using it to train models with a novel linear flash attention mechanism right now. No refusals, and it's been running for at least a week solid.

    I suspect this person was actively using it to generate or classify training data directly.

    • JBits 35 minutes ago
      What sort of data are you getting Claude to generate?
  • Buttons840 9 minutes ago
    If anyone out there wants to pay for my LLM bill, I'll record and send you all the outputs they generate in exchange (perhaps with some exceptions).

    I mean, these AI companies have money, and they want data. I have data, and I want money. Maybe we can work something out.

    In a world where buying and selling data is central to entire industries, why shouldn't I gather and sell my own data?

    • peri-cl 1 minute ago
      Isn't that simply what the API is? I'm not aware that Anthropic (nor OpenAI) have the power to block people from an API router which doesn't doxx their users.

      Last I checked, you trivially get anonymous API's to Fable and Astra; you'd need to real-ID directly to them only if you want infosec-program stuff they block from their API.

      (I have both through Kagi's $25/month API chatbot, but I'm not sure how it works).

  • gdiamos 1 hour ago
    Where I draw the line is asking Claude to label training data. I don’t do this.

    I ask it questions about large models like big MoEs all the time. I’ve never had it refuse a question, but I would expect it to refuse sometimes.

    For training data from existing models I just get open models to spill their guts. It’s fine

    In industry we train employees to not reveal proprietary information.

    I think it would be easier to do this for a model than a lot of employees

    • cisc 25 minutes ago
      > Where I draw the line is asking Claude to label training data. I don’t do this.

      Why draw any line? Anthropic doesn't. They actively take the world's intellectual property, don't pay for it, and put it behind a paywall.

      > but I would expect it to refuse sometimes.

      Why? Anthropic's dream is to be exempted from copyright altogether. They've been trying to achieve exactly that:

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/02/anthropic...

      Given they want no restrictions on them, why should there be any restriction on anyone else?

  • nubinetwork 2 hours ago
    Kindof old news, they've been doing this for months...
    • pkoird 2 hours ago
      Better block than falsify information. Last I heard they were deliberately botching it whenever someone asked semi-advanced questions on model training.
      • jbellis 1 hour ago
        They walked that part back within days. Still made me permanently leery off relying on anthropic for anything important.
      • dominotw 2 hours ago
        so models can reveal "advanced" model building secrets ? how?

        How is it a secret if everyone has a model that is exactly like the other. Surely there are no secrets

        • nostrebored 1 hour ago
          I don’t think it is revelation, it feels like active incompetence. You can lay out every decision and watch Claude/OpenAI actively fuck up in inexplicable ways.
        • impossiblefork 1 hour ago
          It could be simple training tips that are obvious, but which any particular builder might miss.
        • georgemcbay 1 hour ago
          > Surely there are no secrets

          Not yet, especially not with all of the incestuous cross-hiring that all the labs do.

          But perhaps the various L. Bob Rife variants running these labs are using their advanced unreleased models to work on their own Snow Crashes.

  • giancarlostoro 1 hour ago
    I have been using it to train a few BERT models.
    • alansaber 1 hour ago
      I doubt BERT would trip safeguards
  • WhereIsTheTruth 1 hour ago
    US Security Chip act next, your GPU will soon enforce these restrictions too
    • skeledrew 1 hour ago
      Nice. Push more people to use Chinese chips.
      • dgellow 12 minutes ago
        What when China starts doing the same?