OpenAI models are coming to Google Cloud

(openai.com)

102 points | by armcat 5 hours ago

6 comments

  • nsagent 1 hour ago
    Gotta love the disclaimer at the bottom:

      Microsoft remains OpenAI’s primary cloud partner.
    • hobofan 45 minutes ago
      Things that you only say because you are contractually forced to say them.
      • merelydev 43 minutes ago
        Or don't want to crash stock price.
    • echelon 31 minutes ago
      OpenAI buys from Azure because of the Microsoft investment deal.

      OpenAI sells and reaches enterprise customers via GCP.

      Enterprises want zero data retention guarantees and they're already on AWS or GCP, so this is how OpenAI reaches those customers and makes more money.

  • 123haw 45 minutes ago
    Preparing for Oracle bankruptcy.
  • bananzamba 1 hour ago
    How are they trusting Google not to destill them
    • dumberquestions 45 minutes ago
      This is speculation, but funnily enough Gemini models show the least evidence of being distilled from OAI or Anthropic compared to everything else in the market.
      • BudaDude 2 minutes ago
        I feel this is correct. Google has probably the most data of any company in the world. For better or worse, they don't need to train on the outputs of other models.
    • amelius 0 minutes ago
      First answer this: How are they trusting OpenRouter not to distill them?
    • aviinuo 1 hour ago
      Nvidia GPUs let you load encrypted weights onto them and to decrypt on chip so Google would need to have some sort of Nvidia management firmware attack to read from HBM while the GPU is live
      • binlog 42 minutes ago
        Doesn’t really matter what happens at the GPU level when Google can see all API traffic.
      • worldsavior 42 minutes ago
        Except google cloud doesn't use Nvidia GPUs but TPUs.
    • iamdelirium 42 minutes ago
      GCP already hosts Anthropic models so probably trusts and lawyers.
    • lrvick 1 hour ago
      Probably a very strict contract, and letting OpenAI read all the session logs like they do for their own customers.
    • tgma 11 minutes ago
      America is a high-trust society.
    • WarmWash 57 minutes ago
      Google Cloud couldn't give a shit about Google Deepmind, and backdooring Clouds customers only stands to hurt Cloud.
    • binlog 45 minutes ago
      Contracts and lawyers are more powerful than any technical tool.
  • cubefox 42 minutes ago
    Is this the begging of the end of Gemini?
    • iamdelirium 40 minutes ago
      GCP has been hosting Anthropic models for a while.
      • cubefox 33 minutes ago
        Google owns Anthropic stock.
    • tancop 28 minutes ago
      Why would it? The point of Gemini is provide user facing services cheaper than if they were paying OpenAI, make some money on the side with API credits and position themselves as a leader when investors want to see AI everywhere.

      Google Cloud is competing with AWS. Amazon has Bedrock so Google needs to keep up with them by serving both Claude and GPT, along with Gemini and open models.

    • dgellow 41 minutes ago
      No? Why would you think that’s the case? Gemini fills its own niche
  • AndrewKemendo 1 hour ago
    We need a new acronym

    Google, NVIDIA, OpenAI, MSFT…

    GNOM…oh wait no

    The strategy that I’ve heard said out loud now by all the major technology companies is “we’re all doing it (AI) together”

    In my view this was more or less the political result of the White House summit

    So I think we’re seeing what is basically going to be a giant amorphous set of collaborations such that nobody gets taken down, and the whole market doesn’t collapse

    If Alphabet, OAI, MSFT, AMZ…etc all agree to be interoperable then they will be acting more or less as a single body in tension.

    Whether that’s good or not is a question of your worldview but I think that’s the strategy

    • paxy 11 minutes ago
      Giant companies working together isn’t an AI-age phenomenon. Go back 10, 20, 30 years and you’ll see that despite all public perception of competitiveness all the largest tech companies (Apple, Microsoft, Google, Samsung, Amazon) buy/sell to each other, sign partnerships and have tight economic interdependencies.
    • solyin 22 minutes ago
      Add in Meta (Muse app is a winner)

      MOM-NG GNOMM NGMOM MGNOM MGMNO MGMON ONMGM NOMGM NOMMG

    • selimthegrim 42 minutes ago
      This is like that SNL skit with Tim Meadows where Will Ferrell has the F on his shirt on the kids TV show and keeps getting in the inappropriate order
  • open592 39 minutes ago
    I don't understand all the wild speculation and question here - openai is selling a shit ton of inference through third parties. these third parties want to provide inference to their customers who use gcp (and don't want to also inference through bedrock or azure ai foundary.

    these are all zdr engagements and thus "enterprise" contracts.

    basically it boils down to - anthropic already provides inference direct through GCP, Azure, and AWS - so to compete openai is doing the same.