Washing machines took decades to catch on

(daily.jstor.org)

29 points | by herbertl 5 days ago

8 comments

  • bob1029 1 hour ago
    > Second, the semiautomatic washing machines themselves may have taken some of the drudgery out of clothes washing, but they did not really save time. Scott explains that the person washing “had to manually feed each item of clothing through the powered wringers between each part of the cycle.” You could not just close the door and turn the machine on and leave.

    Second? Why not first? This could be the entire article. Why would I buy a machine that doesn't actually provide meaningful value? Everything else in this article is ragebait for HN.

    • tdeck 29 minutes ago
      It saved your muscles from the very tiring work of agitating the contents of the washtub.
      • jzemeocala 7 minutes ago
        as someone that has washed his clothes in his bathtub in college.....i agree
    • magneticnorth 29 minutes ago
      It still seems like that would save a ton of unpleasant work, if not time.

      I own a pasta machine where I have to hand-feed the pasta sheets, and it's so much easier and more fun to make pasta compared to rolling by hand, even though it doesn't save me any time.

      Simply feeding an item into a wringer is easy and a bit meditative; wringing by hand is a lot of work and a lot of wear on your skin.

    • readthenotes1 50 minutes ago
      [flagged]
  • mauvehaus 1 hour ago
    My grandmother had a washing machine with a manually fed electric wringer until she moved into assisted living. It would've likely been no newer than the immediate postwar era, as that's when she moved into the house she lived in. I doubt she would've owned it earlier (steel being needed for the war).

    It was a bit of a production to do laundry with it. I can buy the argument that it was tough to sell machines that weren't fully automated. It looked fun as a kid, but I can't imagine it's fun for more than a load or two!

    Edited to add: they lived north of the Mason-Dixon in an area with very few Black residents.

    • Isamu 48 minutes ago
      When I was young I did summer work for a woman who described how difficult it was getting to find a new washer with a wringer, which if you are not familiar is a pair of rubber rollers above the washtub to really squeeze out the water. This was a wealthy woman who just couldn’t change her workflow.
  • singpolyma3 30 minutes ago
    I imagine there was also the ethical concern of putting all those people out of work...
    • cowlevel 13 minutes ago
      No there wasn't. Literally nobody worries about the ethical concern of putting people out of work when they do the work more efficiently.
  • small_model 23 minutes ago
    We should have put more research into clothes fabric technology so that clothes never get dirty, no washing machines needed.
    • hobo123 14 minutes ago
      There's polyester sports clothing which seems to be more stain resistant (because it doesn't really absorb moisture), but for some reason bacteria seem to stick to it even better, so it gets smelly.
  • simianwords 3 minutes ago
    My friend (a highly paid tech-bro) wouldn't pay cash money for a cordless Dyson vacuum when I could clearly see it being much more pleasant to use and saving much a lot of time and hassle. It was a matter of $200.

    The issue is that people are really conservative spending money on things that are not the status quo. They don't do a first principles analysis using ROI - that's what nerds do.

    Its also the same with agentic commerce or agentic anything. Its obvious that's where things are headed. But you will get the same greybeard response "but you don't need it, just use your brain" etc etc.

  • gib444 1 hour ago
    If electricity gets any more expensive in the UK (it will), I might have to start hand washing clothes!
    • adrianN 7 minutes ago
      You washing machine is likely an order of magnitude more efficient than you. A cycle in my machine consumes something like 0.2kWh.
    • collabs 26 minutes ago
      From what I understand, the dryer is a bigger concern. In the UK and in Europe, you are already ahead of the curve by reducing use of the electric dryer.
    • quickthrowman 10 minutes ago
      A heat pump dryer is 4x as efficient as a resistive electric dryer which would reduce your operating costs by 75%.
  • daveguy 6 minutes ago
    Ruh roh. AI bros and their hundreds of billions of dollars in loans don't have decades.
  • mrits 1 hour ago
    It just takes 5 seconds to think about the treatment of white workers in coal mine to debunk this entire article. My grandmother was a middle class family in mid 20th century and still preferred to hand wash the families cloths until arthritis took over.
    • archole 1 hour ago
      that wouldn't disprove it. You haven't understood the article
      • mrits 33 minutes ago
        disprove and debunk are not the same word
        • gpvos 26 minutes ago
          Oh, so you are a troll.
        • hluska 30 minutes ago
          You're good at being pedantic and playing linguistic hopscotch but you still don't have a clue what you're talking about.
          • mrits 27 minutes ago
            If you think that is being pedantic I can understand why you thought the article was well written.
    • hluska 31 minutes ago
      My great-grandfather died in a coal mine so, I have an intimate understanding of your argument. Intimate enough to tell you that you did not understand the article.
      • mrits 30 minutes ago
        [flagged]
        • hluska 29 minutes ago
          Oh, you're just a troll. Sorry for engaging - carry on with your bullshit.