Food processing influences metabolism and brain activity

(news.vt.edu)

29 points | by gmays 4 hours ago

6 comments

  • pythonRon 1 minute ago
    Before we come to a final conclusion on this, we need to reexamine the NOVA food classification system. It holds some rather baffling contradictions. For instance, if you buy a deep fryer and a mandolin slicer to make your own potato chips at home, they're classified as processed foods. But if you buy a bag of plain potato chips (ingredients: potatoes, oil, salt) they're classified as ultra-processed.
  • esperent 2 hours ago
    From the actual study:

    > The non-UPF and UPF test meals were closely matched on meal weight, energy, energy density, macronutrients, available carbohydrate, glycaemic index and load, total dietary fibre, sodium and water (all ≤1.6% deviation between meals; Fig. 1b).

    So they did match glycemic index, which the article omits.

    • tancop 1 hour ago
      That means the only options left are micronutrients, specific additives or psychology.

      I bet a lot of this is psychosomatic, you expect some food will give you fast energy so your body thinks that means you need it and releases insulin.

      • PowerElectronix 28 minutes ago
        Not only psychology, but training. If your body gets a load of sugar every time it tastes UPF additives, it learns to release insulin on taste to protect itself.
      • eudkfkriEir 35 minutes ago
        > That means the only options left are

        plus all of the options that are complete unknowns which, in biology, is probably close to 99.999%

      • nrclark 32 minutes ago
        Another option is that it's affected by the order of consumption.

        I know somebody who got really into blood glucose monitoring, and she tells me that the order in which she eats a meal affects how much it spikes her glucose. So if she eats a piece of toast followed by a piece of cheese, it causes her a bigger glucose spike than she'd get if she eats the cheese first and then the toast.

        Looking at the two meals in the study: if I sat down to eat the processed one, I'd probably start with the veggie straws. If I saw down to eat the unprocessed one, I'd almost certainly start with the egg or the cheese.

        edit: and here are some other options: I notice that the unprocessed one is grain-free, vegetarian and has significantly less sucrose. I don't know if any of that makes it more or less healthy, but they're significant differences nutritionally.

        • canucker2016 4 minutes ago
          If you look up how to calculate the glycemic index of a meal, the formula treats each meal component's glycemic index as a proportion of the total meal's glycemic index.

          But the above example shows that the body doesn't treat food in that manner - the relatively low carb, higher fat cheese didn't smooth out the higher proportion carb count of the toast.

          In the paper, the largest carbs for the ultraprocessed meal was instant mashed potatoes, while the non-processed meal had bananas as the largest carb source followed by craisins/cranberries.

          The high carb foods in the unprocessed meal are paired with fiber.

          The high carb foods in the ultraprocessed meal are NOT paired with fiber.

          The fiber slows the rate of carb intake.

          Same thing occurs with protein - same amount of ground beef and steak, ground beef meal will result in faster amino acid ingestion than the steak meal. No idea if there are any pros/cons of the faster ground beef ingestion, but there is a difference in how the digestive system processes the two meals.

  • parasti 3 minutes ago
    Only includes water in one type of meal?
  • niek_pas 2 hours ago
    Would love to read the original research paper if anyone has access to it. My university unfortunately doesn’t.
  • TheChaplain 2 hours ago
    I believe they are on to something, but wouldn't it be much better if the sample size was larger than just 57 people?
    • emj 44 minutes ago
      This is a good question but not an invalidation of the study. People underestimate the cost of doing large scale surveys, first year researchers become painfully aware of it. There are lots of research were you try to get a quantitative result cheap. But most costs a lot of money (the big studies are usually very well spent money imho)

      Example: five years, 10000 participants, $170 million https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-awards-170...

    • esperent 1 hour ago
      Of course but I'm sure they made the sample size as large as their funding permitted and it's better than nothing.
    • arrrg 38 minutes ago
      Larger sample sizes allow you to detect smaller effects. Since a signal was seen here effect size doesn’t seem to be the problem.
  • sourcecodeplz 1 hour ago
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