9 comments

  • markus_zhang 4 minutes ago
    This definitely asks for a black ribbon on top of HN.

    What a loss!

  • muunbo 1 minute ago
    Margaret Hamilton actually coined the term "software engineer" IIRC. Rest in peace
  • EvanAnderson 20 minutes ago
    There is a very nice oral history the Computer History Museum produced: https://computerhistory.org/blog/margaret-hamilton-in-her-ow...

    In Levy's "Hackers" there is a story about late night hacking on the TX-0 that fouled-up some weather simulation code an academic user of the computer was running. After hearing this oral history I believe Margaret was the programmer and the code was for Prof. Edward Lorenz.

    • bitwize 13 minutes ago
      Allison Parrish talks about this in some depth. Turns out toxic masculinity was an integral part of the old-school "hacker" culture from the jump.

      http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/programming-forgetting...

      • MarkusWandel 0 minutes ago
        I had to go to an archive site to actually read it; the link says 403 forbidden. I don't really see this as toxic masculinity just because the officially sanctioned user was female. Just an honest mistake - they did test their mod, just not enough for all possible use cases of the computer.
  • WarOnPrivacy 1 hour ago
    Dang. She was a remarkable stand-out, in fields full of remarkable people.

    The pic here is often people's first intro to her https://news.mit.edu/2016/scene-at-mit-margaret-hamilton-apo...

  • bitwize 8 minutes ago
    I've talked a lot about PRIDE, Milt Bryce's information-systems methodology that was perhaps the first commercially available, rigorous methodology for developing software and the first serious attempt to transform information systems development in the commercial sector from an arcane art into a proven, repeatable science. It really has few forbears.

    But... Margaret Hamilton was one of those forbears. She got the ideas out there; PRIDE just commercialized them and made them palatable to business IT shops.

  • customguy 18 minutes ago
    According to Wikiquote, she coined the phrase "software engineering": https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton

    > In the early days of this project, software was treated like an adopted child and not taken as seriously as other engineering disciplines, such as hardware engineering, and was thought of as art and magic, not science. I have always believed that art and science were involved in its creation, but at the time most people thought otherwise. Knowing this, I fought to legitimize software so that both software engineering and those who built it would receive the respect they deserved, so I began using the term “software engineering” to differentiate it from hardware and other forms of engineering. When I first started using these words, they were considered funny. It was a running joke for a long time. They liked to make fun of my radical ideas. Software eventually earned the same respect as any other discipline.

    found another retelling: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/13/margaret-...

    > During the early days of Apollo, software was not taken as seriously as other engineering disciplines. Though in fact we had a complex system of systems, we weren’t getting credit for what was a legitimate field. It was out of desperation I came up with the term, to say: “Hey, we’re engineering too.” It was an ongoing joke for a long time. Then one day in a meeting, one of the most respected hardware gurus explained to everyone that he agreed with me. The process of building software should also be considered an engineering discipline, just like with hardware. It was a memorable moment.

  • saulpw 57 minutes ago
    This feels like a black bar event. RIP Margaret Hamilton.
    • EvanAnderson 21 minutes ago
      Definitely worthy of a black bar. She was a pioneer of making software quality into a formal discipline.
    • oliyoung 39 minutes ago
      Absolutley does
    • _doctor_love 5 minutes ago
      Came here to say this.
  • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
  • timmg 51 minutes ago
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    • geuis 22 minutes ago
      I appreciate a channel that calls itself out. That actually makes the content a little more interesting, because its not hiding what it is.

      (channel name is AI Slop for those not clicking the link.)

    • djohnston 38 minutes ago
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    • acedTrex 21 minutes ago
      Its unimaginable to me that people think making this kind of stuff public is socially acceptable. You may as well post a picture of your latest bowel movement and tell people to go look at it.