5 comments

  • iamnothere 23 minutes ago
    I’m more concerned about OpenBSD. Given how centralized the project governance is, and its base in Canada, I can imagine the government attempting to (for example) force the project to serve backdoored images or updates to targeted people. A backdoor or bugdoor in the source would probably be spotted by someone, and I’m not even sure the bill allows a broad tool like that, but that’s not the only way to compromise software users.

    Fortunately the mirrors are distributed, so maybe that reduces the risk.

  • LorenDB 1 hour ago
    Problem is, where do you take a company like this if you want peace of mind that the new host country won't immediately try to pass a similar law?
    • browningstreet 22 minutes ago
      I've been working through my options per digital freedom, human dignity, and non-double-taxation as a US citizen. It's a depressingly short list.
    • recursive 1 hour ago
      The real use case for satellite-borne data centers.
      • armadyl 1 hour ago
        I fail to see how a satellite data center would fix this unless the company was entirely off planet
        • recursive 1 hour ago
          Hell, the whole company could be located on that satellite if it transacts in crypto-currency.
          • bluGill 34 minutes ago
            Despite the hype, crypto is traceable. It is harder than other currencies and one transaction is probably untraceable. However if you are running a business you are going to get repeated payments from customers and repeatedly pay your employees and suppliers, which in turn creates enough data that they can track you down.
            • blakeashleyjr 28 minutes ago
              Mullvad accepts Monero (XMR), the most private and untraceable coin available today. Your point is correct for all others though.
          • dymk 1 hour ago
            Where do the people live…
            • recursive 2 minutes ago
              This wouldn't work for companies that require humans for now.
    • camkego 30 minutes ago
      How has no one mentioned the Sealand micro nation off the UK?
      • rlpb 1 minute ago
        It's not relevant. The moment criminality (in the view of other nations with these kinds of laws) hosts itself there, they'll find themselves hauled in front of the UK courts, and find that their "micro nation" isn't recognised and that the UK both claims jurisdiction over them and is able to enforce it.
    • mig39 35 minutes ago
      How does Mullvad do it? They also have Canadian servers.
    • MrDrMcCoy 1 hour ago
      Iceland.
    • armadyl 1 hour ago
      Switzerland? Although they’re attempting to close in on this there too.
      • petcat 55 minutes ago
        Didn't proton end up moving to Germany because of bad Swiss privacy laws?
  • singpolyma3 22 minutes ago
    Didn't this bill get amended to clarify that no encryption back doors are required?
    • EmbarrassedHelp 11 minutes ago
      It was amended to make them less likely, but even the Liberals are saying that it can still be used to target encryption.

      And the legislation still requires mandatory data retention and interception capabilities for all VPNs, encrypted messaging services, and every other online service.

  • elmer2 34 minutes ago
    Why don't people ever realize that the more Liberal a government is, the more control they will demand from our lives.
    • nxm 32 minutes ago
      They sell "give us more power, we'll protect you" well