Phyllotaxis: An audio-reactive LED display

(jagi.studio)

197 points | by evakhoury 22 hours ago

23 comments

  • throwaway219450 10 hours ago
    Very cool. 5-fold symmetry on the PCB to use up the board allowance is particularly neat.

    A trick that poor hobbyists learn early on is to make pads a little larger than necessary for SMT parts so you've got somewhere to wick solder onto. Neopixels (5050 LEDs) are reasonable to hand-solder since the pads extend up the sides of the package, but you can also do QFNs with a bit of practice by placing a big via to get to the central pad from underneath.

  • lukeify 10 hours ago
    Cool! Remarkably similar to Voria Labs who produce a product called Lumanoi https://voria.com/

    Perhaps an example of convergent evolution? :)

    • pbronez 4 hours ago
      The common element appears to be the use of a Voronoi tessellation to map a field of scattered points (LED locations) to cells.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronoi_diagram

    • asdfasdfe 3 hours ago
      I see only a very slight superficial resemblence and non of the inner works are related at all.

      Where do you see similarities?

      • busssard 54 minutes ago
        its an organic looking cellular light sculpture for walls
  • jan_Sate 2 hours ago
    This kind of audio visualization reminds me of the old Windows Media Player. I enjoyed watching it back when I was a kid.

    Too bad. Software audio visualization's no longer common. But hey your hardware visualization's better than software! :D

  • XRG 8 hours ago
    Love how the 5 PCBs slot into each other to form the final shape.

    With respect to the assembly: do yourself a massive favor and let the PCB fab also assemble the LEDs. With a simple bill of materials like this it will add very little cost, it saves you a _lot_ of time, and it might also reduce the chance of component damage from adding too much heat or from accidental ESD strikes. (I don’t know how much these Neopixels can handle, though.)

    • scoot 6 hours ago
      > do yourself a massive favor and let the PCB fab also assemble the LEDs

      From the article:

      What's next? ...using PCB assembly...

    • asdfasdfe 3 hours ago
      I don't agree with this. The board and components are trivial to hand solder.
  • busssard 1 hour ago
    very nice+ I have a project on my "will i ever start this" list for putting this onto a sphere with integrated IMU/acc
  • yeehawjared 2 hours ago
    WLED on that would be awesome. Pop an esp32 and make a 2d map
  • michaelbuckbee 4 hours ago
    Neat trick to use mulberry paper under a clear printed part. I wonder if you could simulate stained glass like that.
    • shellfishgene 3 hours ago
      I find it's pretty easy to come up with lighting projects like this, but to make it actually look high quality with a good finish is quite hard.
  • rishabhaiover 2 hours ago
    Very cool!! Love that it takes uploaded Wasm sketches, so people can contribute to it by writing their own patterns for it!
  • asdfasdfe 1 hour ago
    I would love to know how the paper used as diffusor was fixed to the 3d model
  • mordv 5 hours ago
    Cool. CadQuery is perfect fit for such organic modeling. I wonder if there is anything similar for pcb design.
  • miles_io 9 hours ago
    Always wanted to build something like this. The way the sound drives the phyllotaxis patterns is truly mesmerizing.
  • Vakaiser 8 hours ago
    Excellent choice in music for the demonstration.

    https://music.apple.com/us/album/neon-pattern-drum/134973653...

  • nesk_ 7 hours ago
    Love it! I'm currently learning electronics (again, did some in high school) and this kind of project is really inspiring.

    Thank you for sharing the build process.

  • r0b05 8 hours ago
    Nice work. Love to see some vintage HN content
  • joking 5 hours ago
    very inspiring. it's nice to see how an idea evolves from a though to a product / installation.
  • aanet 9 hours ago
    This is brilliant
  • hugoj0s3 9 hours ago
    very cool!
  • hajjamixcv2012 7 hours ago
    Phyllotaxis spirals (derived from the golden angle) make such an elegant coordinate space for radial audio visualization because they avoid the density distortion of concentric circular rings.

    The trickiest part in these builds is usually balancing transient response with temporal smoothing so the LEDs don't devolve into jittery noise during busy frequency passages. Curious if you're doing per-bin decay filters on the FFT or handling dynamic gain normalization upstream?

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  • shevy-java 7 hours ago
    I don't like the word phyllotaxis.

    I understand it was inspired by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllotaxis, but arrangement on leaves serves the purpose of growth in a specific niche. The pattern arises because naturally leaves serve to capture light - see the images on wikipedia there. Phyllo means green. The LEDs used here do not really tap into any of that, and the name is also a misnomer. That's not good.

    • pierrec 35 minutes ago
      The pattern in OP's project can be called phyllotaxis. This is supported by the link you provide which gives even looser examples that are still described as "exhibiting phyllotaxis". A lot of words refer to nature if you look into semantics, not surprising if you consider the amount of beautiful and useful patterns it gives us.
    • cwmoore 4 hours ago
      I disagree with sibling comments. You are correct to express the confounding implications of a word choice. And they have only detracted from the point you make.

      Of course the design is cool and beautiful, but it is not the thing it is called here.

    • rglullis 7 hours ago
      There is no worse form of bikeshedding than naming pedantry.
      • HappMacDonald 6 hours ago
        Agreed. All variable names should be single-letters as the Greek Gods intended :D