15 comments

  • jonkoops 1 hour ago
    Space really should be a neutral ground like Antarctica. Especially since the consequences of space debris might trigger the Kessler effect [1], denying humanity future access to low-earth orbit for the considerable future.

    1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

    • voidUpdate 58 minutes ago
      There is the Outer Space Treaty (1967), which forbids placing "nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in orbit or on celestial bodies or station them in outer space in any other manner", but you can get around that by saying that it's just a conventional weapon, not nuclear or WMD. If it's for space to space combat, you could say that any weapon is potentially a WMD due to the Kessler potential, but if its space to ground, like an orbital missile platform or something, you are technically in the clear.

      I'm guessing it doesn't ban weapons in space completely because of things like the survival guns on Soyuz (if they still fly them), used for defending yourself against wild animals in the event that you land in a forest or similar. "No weapons in space" would ban that as well, but I think it's reasonable to have a survival kit, just in case

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  • HelloUsername 37 minutes ago
    > "a kinetic kill vehicle of some sort - so a vehicle that would release a projectile of some sort that would ram into a satellite and destroy it"

    Semi related "Rods from God": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

  • tristanj 1 hour ago
    • thrance 1 hour ago
      Only relevant part is this:

      > Cost estimates for the Golden Dome program range from $175 billion (White House), to $1.2 trillion (Congressional Budget Office), to $3.6 trillion (American Enterprise Institute) depending on the architectural details. The wide range largely hinges on the number of space-based missiles and the cost of replacing satellites whose low orbits decay quickly due to atmospheric drag. Some $24.4 billion in federal funding was directed to the Golden Dome in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act in 2025, with another $13 billion allocated for the fiscal year 2026, totaling 2.2% of the federal discretionary budget during that year.

      It's just a ploy to transfer more public money to government contractors and friends, like Musk.

    • bob1029 1 hour ago
      See also: the mass of starlink satellites over time.
  • Steve16384 1 hour ago
    I feel safer already. What's the worst that could happen? I'm sure no-one will put an AI anywhere near it.
  • poolnoodle 1 hour ago
    Who do they want to shoot in space?
    • latexr 30 minutes ago
      Not in space, from space.
    • emptyfile 33 minutes ago
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  • chukar 1 hour ago
    Well, that's one way to kick off a new arms race. Guess the orbital junk problem is about to get worse.
    • alfiedotwtf 1 hour ago
      Say goodbye to satellites and space tourism for the next 200 years :(
      • tialaramex 30 minutes ago
        Kessler trashes LEO and yes, "space tourism" because that means bare orbital joyrides and those would become unacceptably hazardous for a tourist attraction. But it makes no real difference for GEO or outer orbits, or for leaving if we, or more likely a non-human probe wanted to leave Earth's orbit.

        So, no Starlink, but you'd still have COSPAS SARSAT in a reduced form, you'd still have geostationary telecoms birds, space telescopes, and various other things.

  • wewewedxfgdf 1 hour ago
    As long as they're OK with China and other countries having space weapons then all is fine.

    Everyone is equal with - they all have nukes in space sitting over each other's countries waiting to drop.

    This is fine.

  • Theodores 23 minutes ago
    Technically the US has had 'space weapons' for many decades, due to how an intercontinental ballistic missile works.

    Incidentally, the Shuttle raised concerns in the USSR because they saw those large cargo bay doors and rocket thrusters out back, to think that this was a 'delivery system'.

    In the modern battlefield, 'hypersonic' missiles are the new shiny. However, any ICBM is 'hypersonic', at least during the space phase. The new meaning of hypersonic means going at 'hypersonic' speeds through the atmosphere and in the final approach. Force equals mass times acceleration, more speed means more deceleration, which means packing a bigger kinetic punch.

  • tyrabound 56 minutes ago
    > China responded on Tuesday by warning against an "arms race" in space.

    > "We urge the US side to stop expanding its military capabilities and preparing for war in outer space," AFP quoted a foreign ministry spokesman as saying.

    Next up; America cries rivers of victimhood when Russia and China put their far more advanced space based weapons systems into orbit and 100x as many in response because the narcissistic maniacs in the “American” educated idiot class ripped the lid off Pandora’s box because Hollywood taught them that the good guy Americans always win.

  • 21asdffdsa12 1 hour ago
    The biggest assets space weapon wise has Musk? Anything that can become a particlecloud taking out a orbit counts- so two constellation sattelites, that aim for one another should count?
  • d--b 56 minutes ago
    What's a space weapon?

    I imagine launching anything from space to earth would be highly inefficient and inaccurate. So it must be space to space.

    Space to space weapons are what? Small drones with an explosive charge? I guess that could work. These "combats" are going to be weird, because the objects are trapped in their orbits. Things are going to move very slowly with a lot of intertia.

  • pythonRon 55 minutes ago
    U.S. paranoia knows no bounds.
    • gchamonlive 53 minutes ago
      When the sole focus is profit and to crush enemies and not to care for the people, the world will start to look like it's full of enemies and profit. It's a self perpetuating, self inflicted situation.
  • junon 58 minutes ago
    > Golden Dome

    Trump seemingly cannot resist the classic opportunity for a "1up", can he?

  • minipark 50 minutes ago
    Isn't it ironic? Spending billions on threats from space while ignoring the person on Earth who acts like Putin's favorite unsecured login.
  • vbezhenar 48 minutes ago
    Starlink is a space weapon.