Dance is such a nuanced thing. Really I think it is more like a language than anything else.
My favorite example of this is at somewhere like a rave or Phish show etc where you can see people form their own little conversations and groups and move on as the night goes.
And of course you have people just enjoying having a nice talk with themselves and the music.
In more professional settings you see people try to fit dance into little boxes and say what it is or is not... it predates spoken language. It is something very primal, not even uniquely human.
Dancing in large groups with other humans truly is primal, and something special. It's akin to the experience I think people get when going to church and similar things, weirdly enough.
Everything is so artificial online today as well, that maybe it's the contrast between what we see all day vs when we're at events, that make it all seem extra special nowadays.
Before I went to my first Phish show I always heard people refer to it as their church; it didn't make sense to me until I went. Even being sober, it was a very powerful experience, and the sense of connection and community was very enlightening.
Never went to a Phish show, but now you got my interest up :) I'm mostly coming from the electronic music scene, in various capacities, and pretty much the same feeling and senses exposed in those, even in more "artificial" music styles.
I feel like a lot of the "AI-doomerism" could be solved if people go out where large groups listen to music, and dance together with strangers. I even wrote about one recent experience in more detail some weeks ago: https://emsh.cat/en/the-people-are-still-there/
When I think about dance, it's about the algebraic structure in it. E.g. translating moves between different levels, transitions between moves, and so on. That, and the movement options that increased physical capabilities unlock. So nothing like what OP thinks about. Not a criticism of what they've written; just a different perspective.
Once again, I’m not at all surprised that tech people can’t simply enjoy the activity for its own sake, but instead impose their calculating, utility-driven mindset on something that is truly beautiful and brings people together. An absolutely bleak perspective.
> tech people can’t simply enjoy the activity for its own sake
How is this possibly your take away from someone describing how they see something? You know nothing about this person, yet conclude they have a bleak perspective, yet you're the one who is criticizing someone for merely thinking and talking about an activity.
Let people enjoy activities in the way they want. If they want to endlessly analyze and discuss the mechanical details about it, or if they just want to stand on the top of a roof in the rain and dance, who cares? They're both "enjoying" the activity, just in different ways.
I wouldn't knock neuroatypical people's attempt to overcome their faulty wiring and do something that could socially benefit them, even if the perspective they are doing it from is strange. RMS has spoken about how getting into Bulgarian folk dance was good for him.
>Learning styles aren't a thing*. It was an idea popularized many years ago - that some people learn by seeing, some by hearing, others by thinking about things , etc... - and has been so thorougly proven not to replicate that when teachers use it to promote their methodology I practice my breathing exercises to not let it get to me.
Of maypole dance and the algebra of braids
My favorite example of this is at somewhere like a rave or Phish show etc where you can see people form their own little conversations and groups and move on as the night goes.
And of course you have people just enjoying having a nice talk with themselves and the music.
In more professional settings you see people try to fit dance into little boxes and say what it is or is not... it predates spoken language. It is something very primal, not even uniquely human.
Everything is so artificial online today as well, that maybe it's the contrast between what we see all day vs when we're at events, that make it all seem extra special nowadays.
I feel like a lot of the "AI-doomerism" could be solved if people go out where large groups listen to music, and dance together with strangers. I even wrote about one recent experience in more detail some weeks ago: https://emsh.cat/en/the-people-are-still-there/
How is this possibly your take away from someone describing how they see something? You know nothing about this person, yet conclude they have a bleak perspective, yet you're the one who is criticizing someone for merely thinking and talking about an activity.
Let people enjoy activities in the way they want. If they want to endlessly analyze and discuss the mechanical details about it, or if they just want to stand on the top of a roof in the rain and dance, who cares? They're both "enjoying" the activity, just in different ways.
However I could not figure out which partner dances he focuses on, I would be curious to know.
Note: the author is also on HN. He made this:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49649789
What???
Ppl definitely learn by various means.
Im reading it wrong or what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles#Criticism
https://onlineteaching.umich.edu/articles/the-myth-of-learni...