3 comments

  • Alexwortega 6 minutes ago
    Do you think it will be possible to train on this bench?
    • matt4711 0 minutes ago
      The judgements are available on huggingface so training is possible. But given that we evaluate on new queries daily there would need to be some generalization happening for this to show up in the benchmark.
  • terno 13 minutes ago
    do you somehow control how non-trivial the queries are? The LLM generates them, right?

    what if every engine returns garbage, or on the other hand, handles them too well?

    building a benchmark like this in a genuinely fair way seems extremely hard to me. I’m very curious about the details, of course within what you can share.

    • matt4711 7 minutes ago
      It is hard to be fair I agree. We tried to be open about what we do here: github.com/keenableai/needle

      The queries from what I can tell are not trivial. The actual github repo of the benchmark has a judgement/query browser where you can inspect the different query streams: https://keenableai.github.io/needle/

  • matt4711 1 hour ago
    One of the authors here. We have been seeing lots of benchmaxxing and leakage in standard web search benchmarks such as BrowseComp.

    We developed this live benchmark with daily/hourly sampled fresh queries matching real agentic search traffic to estimate actual search performance of different AI search providers.