Thomson Reuters Launches Its Own Frontier Model

(thomsonreuters.com)

41 points | by giuliomagnifico 1 hour ago

7 comments

  • cootsnuck 48 minutes ago
    This is going to increasingly happen over the years to come. Big organizations will become more sophisticated with operationalizing their data, training and running LLMs will continue to be demystified and accessible, and over time we'll get more and more specialized / industry-specific models.

    It's going to become another way to monetize your informational assets if you're a big older enterprise with troves of data. All you need is time to figure out how to make it useful for yourself and then eventually sell access to it however you want.

    Think of all the data that big orgs have that isn't accessible to all the AI labs to suck up.

  • Arcuru 43 minutes ago
    > starting from a strong open-source foundation and investing $40 million to train Thomson

    Sounds like they spent $40 million finetuning an open weight model on their own data? I wonder what they built on.

  • elpakal 35 minutes ago
    > Our evaluation found Thomson’s citation quality generally competitive with leading frontier models, even when tested on Canadian employment-law questions without a Canada-specific setting.

    That’s it? It was generally competitive with leading frontier models? Neat, but why would someone pay for frontier models and also a generally competitive additional product?

  • peddling-brink 32 minutes ago
    > Thomson Reuters is also making a “small” version of Thomson available as an open-weight model on Hugging Face for academic and non-commercial use to further aid in this validation.

    Looking forward to the ERP fine-tune.

  • dash2 50 minutes ago
    Has anyone found a link to the technical report? They don’t seem very keen to publicise their performance on evals…
  • echelon 49 minutes ago
    I don't trust that they'll be able to make back that $40M.

    This feels very much like a news agency getting into crypto or launching its own NFT line.

    Or IBM selling Watson.

    Or Mozilla chasing every which thing.

    They're not stakeholders in the future of work. They're just wanting to stay relevant and pattern matching against what they see.

    Reuters is too important for this.

    If they were trying to use this as a narrative affront to OpenAI and Anthropic, maybe, but this is Reuters, not a deeply political organization seeking to land gotchas against big tech.

    • judge2020 37 minutes ago
      Reuters, the news agency, is only roughly 10% of TR's revenue. They're still a pretty big player in Legal and Tax.
    • colechristensen 31 minutes ago
      No it's just a value add to their existing data products and a moat against the big n LLM companies. The "news" part of the business is relatively small compared to everything else the do.

      Like how Bloomberg does news but its far from their only or primary product. TR covers a different surface of data products than Bloomberg but it's a decent comparison.

  • fenestella 17 minutes ago
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