Ox-Alpha Is GLM?

(dejan.ai)

41 points | by jitbit 12 hours ago

4 comments

  • volf_ 11 hours ago
    GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so.

    My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot.

    MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant than the lab behind ox-alpha, so less likely).

    • minimaxir 40 minutes ago
      The other tell from the provider angle is capacity. Whoever is hosting Ox Alpha has a lot of capacity which narrows down a lot of the Chinese companies.
    • nylonstrung 9 hours ago
      It would be stranger to me that Kimi switched to GLM's tokenizer than that GLM added multimodal like Kimi and Deepseek both did recently
    • Bolwin 11 hours ago
      Glm had made vision models in the past. Look up GLM 5v.

      The only question now is if it's 5.3v, 5.4/5.5 or a dedicated flash/vision model

      • volf_ 10 hours ago
        Yeah. It could be. The Z.ai DC latency is still ~1.2s faster than whomever is serving this model.
    • Almondsetat 11 hours ago
      DeepSeek literally just came out with the vision-enabled version of Flash v4 which was purely text based. Why would GLM not be able to do the same thing?
      • volf_ 10 hours ago
        It's possible
  • behnamoh 15 minutes ago
    You must have so much time on your hands to go to such great length to dox an anon model on the internet. What new piece of information am I supposed to learn from this passage?
    • minimaxir 13 minutes ago
      You cannot "dox" an AI model.

      Given the traction the model has received, it is extremely newsworthy to know who's developing and hosting it.

      • behnamoh 12 minutes ago
        my question is: how does that affect a company's strategy? it's not like management is gonna switch models soon as a new shiny one drops. entire workflows depend on specific models working the way they do; you can't just swap out models.
        • minimaxir 10 minutes ago
          If it's a really really good model, then yes, people will switch as long as the price is right. Ox Alpha is looking to be a really really good model to the point that it competes with Fable/Sol, and will likely beat them on price.
  • ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago
  • xorgun 21 minutes ago
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