TreasuryDirect: Prepare for ID.me – Your New Way to Log In

(treasurydirect.gov)

33 points | by Mindless2112 1 hour ago

7 comments

  • Animats 44 minutes ago
    The IRS backed off from using "ID.me" back in 2022.[1] But apparently it is back. Is Treasury requiring face recognition, like last time?

    And of course this will be used to track down illegal aliens.

    [1] https://www.biometricupdate.com/202202/downwind-of-irs-decis...

  • bramhaag 1 hour ago
    Why did the US gov decide to rely on a TLD controlled by Montenegro for this seemingly important and sensitive service?
    • isiahl 1 hour ago
      It’s not even a government service. It’s a private business they have entrusted with authentication for the government.
      • varispeed 1 hour ago
        textbook fascism (marriage of corporations and government).
        • rho138 1 hour ago
          Queue the flag/downvote storm for callimg out the system that provably doesn’t work.
          • gjsman-1000 29 minutes ago
            No system has ever provably worked; otherwise we wouldn’t have had revolutions.
    • deathanatos 1 hour ago
      And we even have login.gov, too! (… which I really hope replaces ID.montengro one of these days, but … I guess not, if the Treasury is adopting it now.)
      • sandeepkd 4 minutes ago
        Personally I think its a poor choice to go with ID.me instead of login.gov when it comes to security. Primary reason is the completeness of the product and reliability. A security product does not needs all the bells and whistles and can be well defined for governments use case. Any security product with ongoing development is just an open door for possible vulnerabilities being introduced.
    • petcat 30 minutes ago
      > US gov decide to rely on a TLD controlled by Montenegro

      Let's be honest, the US government can control basically any domain it wants. I doubt Montenegro is going to cause any problems for it.

    • noinsight 1 hour ago
      It’s funny… In Finland they went with hightrust.id (Indonesia) too.
  • waldrews 1 hour ago
    TreasuryDirect's login and account recovery experience has been notorious for years, both for user experience and for people easily getting locked out for weeks. It's good they're being careful with this rollout, as it serves both individual and institutional accounts where dollar amounts involved are epic even by bank standards, and rarely checked by hand, so even single account breaches are serious.
  • chenxiaolong 38 minutes ago
    In case anyone is interested in using TOTP two-factor authentication with their ID.md account, I made a script for setting that up: https://github.com/chenxiaolong/id-me-otpauth

    They used to support TOTP directly, but removed it in favor of their proprietary mobile apps. It's still TOTP under the hood though, just requires a couple API calls to "activate" it.

  • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
    Unfortunate it’s not login.gov but definitely an improvement over their bespoke customer identity and access management solution.
    • rcleveng 1 hour ago
      I was happy when they got rid of the virtual keyboard you had to type your password onto, such a pain since you also couldn't paste into the password field to autocomplete from a password manager.

      Had to constantly popup Chrome DevTools and "fix" the dom element to let paste work.

    • qgin 1 hour ago
      Does anyone remember their crazy Ovaltine-decoder-ring two factor auth that they had for a while? They mailed you a physical card with custom grid of numbers and letters and the login challenge would be to submit the letters an numbers at various grid points.
      • britta 11 minutes ago
        I’ve compiled the entire sordid history of TreasuryDirect authentication in their Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TreasuryDirect
      • fallinghawks 11 minutes ago
        Yes, I had one of those cards. It made you feel like you were accessing government secrets. In 2007.
      • zbentley 58 minutes ago
        That type of system is actually still in use in a lot of industries—either as a primary factor or a fallback for folks who might need to log in without a working device. Think healthcare workers who forgot their phone but need to order a surgery, or outdoor safety workers updating the toughbook after a day of work that might damage phones.
      • altairprime 46 minutes ago
        I still have mine! It was really excellent before camera phones.
    • dbalatero 1 hour ago
      Yeah, there's no mandate for government agencies to use login.gov AFAIK, so they can either go with login.gov or buy the private id.me solution. In general it's not a slamdunk to get agencies to cooperate and use their services, it seems.
      • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
        Login.gov had/has some technical gaps for agency customer identity use cases, which is why you don’t see it used by some agencies yet (depending on their customer identity assurance requirements). The outstanding technical gaps will be closed eventually, at which point id.me can be phased out as a private for profit idp vendor.

        https://legis1.com/news/logingov-technical-issues-gsas-platf...

        > GSA has closed most of the gaps GAO identified in 2024 and 2025, but the remaining recommendation has a direct operational consequence. GSA has developed a public roadmap and created a Partner Advisory Group, but GAO says those steps do not demonstrate that the specific technical challenges agencies identified have been resolved or that mutually agreed-upon time frames have been established.

        > GAO will continue monitoring GSA's progress. Until those time frames are established, the federal government's government-wide identity verification service retains an unresolved implementation gap as fraud and identity-theft threats continue to evolve.

        https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-26-109261

    • ghaff 1 hour ago
      And 1990s era website design (maybe). I'll have to retrieve my credentials from somewhere I guess. Not sure why they're not unifying it with other government websites.
      • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
        The arc of progress is like the visibility curve over the horizon. We keep sailing.
  • cebert 34 minutes ago
    This makes me so angry.
  • shevy-java 1 hour ago
    > To set up a new ID.me account, you’ll need two government-issued forms of identity ready.

    That will be rolled out before anyone can access the world wide web. And they will continue to claim it is for the protection of kids ...