2027 memory capacity is reportedly sold out

(ign.com)

50 points | by inigyou 1 hour ago

9 comments

  • AmbroseBierce 0 minutes ago
    Turns out AI-maxxing implicates citizens-minning.
  • amelius 13 minutes ago
    How am I going to buy a computer that connects to AI datacenters now?
  • chvid 6 minutes ago
    I saw on Twitter that TSMC has made 1B worth of chips for Apple that they cannot package because of missing memory.

    (PS: It is time to let ASML sell to CXMT.)

  • guessmyname 53 minutes ago
    • zarzavat 8 minutes ago
      Note to the momentarily shocked: this is in Canadian dollars.
  • tosti 50 minutes ago
    All those devs who were saying "ram is cheap" BTFO.
    • jbverschoor 10 minutes ago
      Thanks to AI, we can now one-shot convert electron to native apps ;-)
    • amelius 37 minutes ago
      Bad times for the two-space copying garbage collectors.
      • pjc50 25 minutes ago
        Are there any of those left? The popular VMs for Java, Javascript and dotnet are all very mature heavily tuned designs.
    • rock_artist 42 minutes ago
      That's tech... Moore Law was steadily going until raw CPU got stuck for a few years, switching from single core to multicore then heterogeneous cpus, all those requiring to rewrite software in a scalable manner and then consider newer schedulers switching between performance/efficiency cores and changing CPU freqs.

      Also, you have Meta and Google investing in simplified performant versions of their stack for developing countries which is similar.

      What's funny though, I see people that sometimes says it's cheaper to build the app they need in a single prompt than to search for it.

  • WithinReason 45 minutes ago
    This hopefully helps mitigate the risk of putting more production capacity in place, which the Big 3 were not willing to do so far.
    • pjc50 22 minutes ago
      At this size, I think we have to start worrying about a 2008-type default risk. AI companies will have ordered all the RAM and paid some kind of deposit for that, but actually taking delivery and paying for it is still in the future and the sums of capital involved are extremely large.
      • inigyou 8 minutes ago
        That's the reason RAM companies aren't expanding.
      • nixon_why69 20 minutes ago
        Also there is a ton of debt flying around, its not just equities hurting VC funds, real banks are facing risks now.
  • PeterStuer 1 hour ago
    Isn't scalping illegal in some countries?
    • inigyou 49 minutes ago
      Buying and selling at market price is rarely illegal. I think in the USSR it might be?
      • chupasaurus 15 minutes ago
        It was legal in USSR for USSR to scalp though, depends on point of view.
    • actionfromafar 56 minutes ago
      Isn't scalping a term used for tickets? Also, these companies supposedly intend to actually use the RAM they ordered, not reselling at some inflated price.

      It's all fair game IMHO, except the elephant in the room which is that the AI company bubble might pop.

      • GoblinSlayer 8 minutes ago
        Then we'll have a lot of cheap RAM.
      • AussieWog93 40 minutes ago
        I don't see the AI bubble popping any time soon (as in, not in terms of physical datacenter buildout - stock prices could fall). Even if progress hits a brick wall, we still have multiple years of just expanding out the models we have to more people in more industries.