7 comments

  • dmurray 2 hours ago
    This part is clearly nonsense:

    > According to the planner’s calculation, the journey would have taken 43 days to cover 1,500 Roman miles. To put that into a contemporary context: the same route by road today can be completed in 14 days (340 hours) on foot, or 16 hours by car (source in Spanish).

    It would take 340 hours to walk, whether you do it today or in Roman times. Google maps is assuming you would walk for 24 hours a day, the planner is assuming you could walk for around 8.

    • watutalkinbout 1 hour ago
      That said, as someone who has walked on cobblestone - a modern road in modern boots is different to an ancient road in ancient boots.

      I'd bet money the 'real' travel times would differ.

      • toyg 1 hour ago
        > an ancient road in ancient boots

        Boots? That's luxury! Sandals more likely...

    • seri4l 2 hours ago
      Yes, distance is about the same. 1488Km in Google and 1075 Roman miles in Omnesviae [0], that is ~1590 Km.

      [0] https://www.omnesviae.org/#OVPlace337_TPPlace1048

    • NotCamelCase 2 hours ago
      Who'd walk the route more easily for 8h though? A random Western today or a random Roman then?
      • dmurray 1 hour ago
        Roman legions marched around 30 km/day [0], carrying their own supplies, food, weapons and armour, needing to spend time making and breaking camp each day.

        Modern European pilgrims on the Camino de Santiago seem to do about 20 km/day [1] and it's considered tiring but accessible by average people, not serious hikers. They carry less of their supplies and do not need to fortify their camp against barbarians.

        Roman soldiers were presumably fitter and better trained than the average Roman (though maybe not by much, since everyone worked manual jobs). Maybe that's enough to account for the difference.

        [0] https://www.quora.com/Did-Roman-legions-actually-march-20-mi...

        [1] https://caminoways.com/how-many-days-does-it-take-to-walk-th...

        • swasheck 1 hour ago
          i’ve walked the via francigena and the italian section has quite a few sections of ancient roman road. they’re admittedly not contiguous, and are worn more extensively now, so i don’t get the same overall experience of treading on the stones for kilometers as they would have.

          i target 35km/day with a 40L pack and finish my segments within 6-7 hours. asphalt, dirt and grass, and hiking trails (rocks, roots, dirt, etc) are the most standard surfaces and, to be honest, they’re all exhausting in their own rights so a change in surface is always welcome.

          i can’t imagine marching most of this with near double body weight and then having to make camp.

          • toyg 1 hour ago
            That's how they conquered all of their known world though, out of sheer bloody-mindedness.
          • nntwozz 26 minutes ago
            I'd like to add they were also doing all that wearing leather sandals.

            Imagine the Roman army with Adidas Ultraboost.

      • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
        > A random Western today or a random Roman then?

        Probably better to compare "A random Italian" rather than "A random Westerner", the Americans and other car-focused cultures kind of drag down the average a bit too much otherwise.

        • toyg 59 minutes ago
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33y3151vydo - "Pizza, pasta, potatoes, protein - how Italian children became so overweight"

          Industry fucked us too, dude.

          • kakacik 13 minutes ago
            Hmm, thats a sad read. But I am not buying 'its the industry' in 2026, this is caused by folks who should and could do better but couldn't be bothered. Its also indicated in the article, young people know its junkfood and know long term effects but simply don't care. If wanting to point fingers aim them at society as a whole, junkfood was well recognized problem 10-15 years ago when these kids were being born.
        • agos 24 minutes ago
          ehhh Italy is sadly one of the most car-dependent countries in the western world, topping the number of vehicles per 1000 people in Europe (excluding microstates). No one's safe
      • seri4l 2 hours ago
        Probably a random Roman. People used to walk a lot, often barefoot. The random modern Westerner would get blisters within the first week.
      • BrandoElFollito 5 minutes ago
        When I was in my late teens, I used to hike with a 15 kg backpack (with the technology of the late 80s). I could walk about 15 km in average hills over 8-10 hours.

        I was average, physical capacities wise.

      • glimshe 2 hours ago
        Probably the Westerner with better shoes, clothes, energy bars, hydration drinks, sunscreen etc.

        The only caveat since you said "random" is obesity.

      • fakedang 2 hours ago
        Eh, I'd say it's equal.

        I've walked for 8 hrs before, wearing modern sneakers on roads with vehicular traffic, and travelled about the same distance estimated by Google Maps. I'd estimate the Roman would like be able to travel in the same duration, barring other extenuating factors (like Caesar staging a revolt against the Senate and crossing with his legion right in front of your planned route), with worse shoes but more walk-friendly roads.

        • watutalkinbout 1 hour ago
          Cobblestones aren't walk friendly.
          • lstodd 5 minutes ago
            Asphalt/concrete isn't either. Gravel or packed dirt is way better.

            That said 30km/day is very real, even in mountain country. It takes 6-7 hours, the rest is resting/gawking/laying on a mountain watching the sky (or trying furiosly to find that effin trail on osmand). I walked that a few times a week when I lived in Montenegro, and that was 50/50 roads and mountain trails from sea level up to 700m-ish elevation and back. No fancy shoes, no prep but for a hat and couple bottles of water. After a third walk or so it isn't even exhausting.

  • echoangle 2 hours ago
    > The tool is called OmnesViae (Omnesviae.org (source in Spanish))

    I’m pretty sure the page is in Latin for me

  • madhu_ghalame 1 hour ago
    A mobile-friendly interactive guide or tour mode could make the platform more engaging for students and history enthusiasts.
    • toyg 55 minutes ago
      You start with that and then they will clamor for translations into vulgata, and before you know it we're all surrounded by bleeding christiani who don't know their Mars from their Mercurius...
  • comrade1234 2 hours ago
    Not including having to wait three months in the winter before attempting to cross the alps.
  • brudgers 4 days ago
    Tabla Peutingeriana at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabula_Peutingeriana
  • khanhnguyen8386 1 hour ago
    Open source code on Codeberg and historical data combined into a functional map—this is the kind of passion project the web was built for.
    • FearNotDaniel 51 minutes ago
      I mean, technically it was built for "the management of general information about accelerators and experiments at CERN". The fact that it also supports a whole bunch of peoples' passion projects as well as a multi-trillion dollar commercial marketplace is just a bonus...

      https://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html