Small Penis Rule

(en.wikipedia.org)

107 points | by chistev 3 hours ago

12 comments

  • alexpotato 40 minutes ago
    I'm always fascinated by these tricks of game theory.

    e.g. in business school, the dean of the undergraduate school had this story:

    "When I was a practicing lawyer working on wills and estates, people would often ask me to cut someone completely out of their will.

    I would always say that a better option was to write something like 'To my daughter Susan, I leave $1,000. She always said that she wanted to be financially independent from me so this is an amount to show her I lover her.'

    Clients would always think this would send the wrong message and I would replay:

    'No, no. If Susan fights the will and says she should have gotten more, the judge will say: but she clearly left you something and pointed out that she loved you AND took your wishes into account' "

    I wish there was a book or collection of these types of tricks to study.

    • keane 1 minute ago
      There’s A Hacker's Mind: How the Powerful Bend Society's Rules, and How to Bend Them Back by Bruce Schneier

      https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393866667

    • arijun 38 minutes ago
      Wait I thought standard practice was to leave $1 to show that they were considered and purposefully removed from the will? Does that fail in court?
    • IncreasePosts 28 minutes ago
      Multiple times in my life, a potential romantic interest asked how big my dick was, and I told them it was tiny. This led them to believe that it was large, because what guy who is tiny would say it was tiny?

      Suffice to say they were a bit disappointed when expectations met reality

  • omoikane 58 minutes ago
    A related concept in Chinese is 對號入座:

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%B0%8D%E8%99%9F%E5%85%A5%E...

    An example might be some person A saying "only an idiot with this set of very specific negative attributes would do this thing". And then person B came out in the public saying they had been slandered by person A, thus indirectly admitting to having those very specific negative attirbutes.

    Basically if person A invokes something like the small penis rule, it's often better for person B to stay quiet to avoid 對號入座.

  • jancsika 10 minutes ago
    I wonder if the Catch Me if You Can guy counts. He apparently lied about a lot of his adventures as a scam artist, making him more of a fabulist.

    However, if anyone taken in by his stories were to complain publicly (say, a book publisher or something), they'd be admitting not only to being a rube, but a rube to a liar who had already claimed publicly to be a scam artist. Even worse, that scam would be real and count as a success, restoring the scam artist's tarnished reputation from fabulist back to bona fide scam artist.

  • conartist6 1 hour ago
    I'm sure South Park had no idea about any of this
  • rsstack 1 hour ago
    A Jewish comedian made a joke about how jews (only in the US*) were offended that Ferengi in Star Trek were based on them - "why would we assume these ugly greedy people are _us_?"

    *Outside the US, it looks like the Ferengi are mocking American capitalist culture.

    • secondcoming 50 minutes ago
      Is it true that the Ferengi were based on Jews? I suspected so, but then I also considered they may have been influenced by the Chinese.
      • rsstack 43 minutes ago
        > Armin Shimerman addressed the issue when asked at a question-and-answer session at a Star Trek convention. He stated that:

        > In America, people ask "Do the Ferengi represent Jews?" In England, they ask "Do the Ferengi represent the Irish?" In Australia, they ask if the Ferengi represent the Chinese ... The Ferengi represent the outcast ... it's the person who lives among us that we don't fully understand.[30]

      • ryanmcbride 21 minutes ago
        No, it's cultural-other pareidolia
      • bitwize 27 minutes ago
        Given that DS9 showrunner and co-creator Michael Piller was in fact Jewish, I highly doubt that the Ferengi are some sort of stealth Nazi propaganda. They're either a mockery of the "happy merchant" stereotype beloved of anti-Semites, or (more likely) just a critique of greed and capitalism itself.

        What's funny is that Leonard Nimoy (Jewish) based his portrayal of Spock on the idea that the Vulcans were the space Jews. This idea kind of comes to a head in the 2009 movie, in which a guy named after a Roman emperor destroys Vulcan, causing a Vulcan diaspora...

    • arijun 1 hour ago
      I think that is a bad example. I haven't heard of Jewish people being offended by Ferengi, but anti-Semitic depictions are very often exactly "ugly, greedy people" (just look at any Nazi propaganda). Once it becomes a common thread it works less as a defense.

      I imagine "small hands" would similarly work poorly as a defense against a defamation suit from Trump: he doesn't have to claim he has small hands, only that he is often depicted as having them.

      • krapp 28 minutes ago
        In the case of the Ferengi, "ugly greedy people with big noses," specifically greedy for an in-universe gold analogue, short, always cheating people; the analogues with common anti-semitic stereotypes are certainly there.

        Then again Armin Shimmerman, who played Quark and is Jewish himself, has said that people in different countries see different stereotypes in the Ferengi - such as the Chinese or the Irish - so it probably depends on one's own own cultural indoctrination.

        I think a better case could be made for the Klingons being racist caricatures, since in TOS their look was intentionally based on Asiatic and Mongol people in order to make them seem more frightening and villainous.

  • comrade1234 1 hour ago
    If you accuse someone (not me) of having a small penis (I don't) they (not me) don't have to show that they (not me) have a large penis (like me). Just the accusation they made (to you, not me) is slander enough. But I'd gladly drop-trousers in a court.
    • arijun 55 minutes ago
      I don't think it would be me accusing you of having a small penis (since of course you don't). It's me accusing someone named romcade4321 of being a generally shitty person, and also having a small penis. If you think romcade4321 is a referyou, you would have to prove the similarity between them and you (maybe by dropping your trousers in court?)
  • fragmede 1 hour ago
    Then again, money.

    > A jury in New Mexico awarded $412 million to a man who sued over what he said were unnecessary erectile dysfunction shots that decimated his penis

    On the one hand, now you're famous for having a dick that doesn't work, on the other hand, $412 million.

    https://amp.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article296...

    • bellowsgulch 49 minutes ago
      $412 million in actualized damages?

      That’s international dynastic money over a penis.

      • altmanaltman 3 minutes ago
        No they did not give him 412 million dollars. They appealed the judgement and will fight it out for years. The man is 72 years old. Of that 412, most of it is punitive damages which will be fought over. Interest would acrue and if the clinic loses, they could be on the hook to pay $500 million+ but that's really very unrealistic.
    • draw_down 1 hour ago
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  • z_open 2 hours ago
    I can't imagine judges would normally except this especially since it seems to be a known way to skirt law.
    • nfw2 2 hours ago
      It's not a legal defense strategy, it's a social engineering strategy
    • steego 2 hours ago
      If nobody brings forward a lawsuit in the first place, why would there be a judge?
    • tarpitt 1 hour ago
      I think the point is that you can apply it to any shameful-enough aspect of the libel/parody.
  • brookst 2 hours ago
    Sigh. Reductionist thinking again. Yes, of course, if you literally say “small penis” the plaintiff would rightfully cite this history.

    But it’s not meant to be taken literally, like those are magic words. You say “he failed upwards, funded by family wealth and connections, despite everyone thinking he was an idiot who could barely string a sentence together”

    The point is to emphasize, even exaggerate, low-status negative qualities.

    • genxy 2 hours ago
      It isn't the size of your tort, it is how you use it.

      Also, are men this easily manipulated?

      Yes.

      • PaulHoule 1 hour ago
        Where's @Cindy when you need her?
        • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
          Didn't know we could summon him/her/it, but seems it worked. Strangeness all around.
        • cindyllm 1 hour ago
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      • zephen 1 hour ago
        Yes, I see you have produced a very small (re)tort, but arguably have used it well.
        • projektfu 1 hour ago
          What's the smallest retort that can be blown? I wonder.
          • zephen 1 hour ago
            > I wonder.

            I didn't, and still don't, but now I wonder why you wonder.

    • pessimizer 1 hour ago
      Were you trying to reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48797302? Because as it is it seems like you're being snarky with Wikipedia.
    • techscruggs 1 hour ago
      This sounds like exactly the kind of thing that some with a small penis would say ...
  • sebastianconcpt 1 hour ago
    Another day in Everything is About Mate Suppression
  • varispeed 1 hour ago
    Where are the pictures to see what exactly is the problem?
    • stephbook 1 hour ago
      Right in the article. On Windows, use "Magnifying Lens"
    • sunaookami 39 minutes ago
      Try a mirror

      /s