After seeing headlines about the ufc fight on the White House lawn and seeing headlines about how Japanese World Cup fans clean up trash after the match I had an image of programmers doing lawn care at the White House...
i 100% thought this article was going to be about cleaning up the idiocracy festival from the past weekend. didn't even question the fact that people from anthropic would be there to help, seemed like a fitting asskiss.
That was seriously what I thought the headline is about. Anthropic flying in their employees to clean up the trash after Trumps birthday party for free to demonstrate their obedience with a good show of licking the Dear Leader's boots.
Extremely silly of course, but entirely in line with all the other news currently coming out of the US ;)
Being angry about one thing does not mean someone is ok with another.
And the context is quite different. The complaint about Trump relates more to what he is doing. Your complaint about Biden relates to something a party invitee did.
I guess a similarity is an element of virtue signalling. But if that is something you have a problem with then you must really hate Donald Trump because that seems to be his entire presidency. And the fight against homophobia is a legitimately virtuous activity. Right and wrong do exist.
Anecdotally, I think this is a much bigger cleanup than just talking to the administration.
I think there's a wider damage done which there is no coming back from. And this is for the USA, not Anthropic.
The chance that sovereignty and rules such as this could be applied to AI was a concern that a lot of people had, but the risk was unknown.
Speaking for myself, I had guessed this would happen at some point of time. I was expecting/hoping it'd be years away.
However given the events in the last few days it greatly increases my concern with building any product which can depend on an on an API which could go away for a number of my customers.
I've been experimenting with other open weight models hosted in favorable sovereign countries for a few months, but this accelerates something which was an experiment to now being a must-have.
I don't think it is going to be easy for any of the parties to repair this easily.
I see it exactly the same, self hosted LLM will be the future. They may not be SOTA, but it is better to have a Trabant in your garage than being denied use of shared Ferrari, because somebody outside of your control had hissy fit.
I just can't get his popularity, he isn't smart, he isn't a great speaker, his opinions on actually important stuff is often... just sad to hear, hyping up a 'bro effect and thats about it. Its like listening to that old buddy from primary school who struggled to get through high school, and now as an adult gathered some interesting opinions about the world, politics and humans that you really are not interested in.
Tons of better folks online, if somebody really has nothing better going in their short lives to listen to blahs for 3 hours, repeatedly. I guess there are worse ways to spend time though
He helped Trump win by promoting the guy right before the election, together with Theo Von. For clicks, and undeniably, money. Both are tools. One of them with a kick of a mule, still a tool.
Cheaper and less harmful to long-term and international prospects to just make a gold-plated “AI Peace Prize” award and gift it in some ceremony. Couple of hundred thousand dollars, works great. Ask Tim Apple.
As I understand it, ITAR regulations for export controls have just been applied to any form of Mythos.
These are overseen by U.S. Departments of State and Commerce, and forbid foreign nationals from access to any form of Mythos, either within or outside the U.S.
Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.
It appears that Anthropic does not have internal controls to implement these restrictions in any form, so the only option was to shut Mythos down.
Penalties for ITAR violation can reach ten years in prison and a million dollars per violation. (I can post a link to those details if there is any interest.)
As long as Anthropic is a U.S. company, there is no escaping this.
> Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.
It was my understanding that not even green card holders may access Mythos. Normally when restrictions like this are put in place, you need a exemption as a green card holder. A geen card is just a permit to live and work in the US. Its not the same as citizenship.
> Security Clearance: Green Card holders are generally prohibited from jobs that require high-level security clearances or sensitive government/military roles reserved exclusively for U.S. citizens.
That's not true. ITAR and security clearance are entirely separate regulatory regimes. For ITAR purposes, being a permanent resident is good enough. I used to work for a defense contractor, and we hired plenty of green card holders. They were not in general assigned to work that required a clearance, but plenty of defense-sensitive, ITAR-controlled work is done by green card holders.
Were those ITAR export controls chosen because they really are the most appropriate tool for this particular case, or because they could be deployed at a very short notice?
Individuals can leave, but the company cannot transfer restricted intellectual property.
Europe has extradition treaties, so the U.S. can force anyone in Europe back to the U.S. for criminal indictment who demonstrates inappropriate possession of this technology.
It's not "AI light bulbs", the point is to use smart meters for load shedding and load rearranging. Why wouldn't you want for people and companies to be able to use cheaper electricity in off-peak hours?
doesn't seem to be a political meeting, but rather a technical one. Maybe they'll review the jailbreaks and demonstrate that can be replicated in any model out there?
Yep, hard to feel bad when the whole reason they're in this mess is because they tried to introduce FYD about their own product as an argument why open models need to be banned.
Anthropic wants to do things that they don’t want to write in an email.
How unsurprising.
Amodei has always been and always will be a creep. Unfortunately too many people here don’t want to hear it about their favourite billionaire, just like they didn’t want to hear it about all the other sociopaths that tech has minted in the last 20 years.
Unfortunately it's not widely distributed information, if you care so much about shedding a light on Amodei's shadiness it would help a lot folks like me to understand what you are talking about.
I know of Sam Altman's shenanigans from way before OpenAI (I used to be on reddit a lot more when `sama` appeared over there) but I have no idea about Amodei.
Help us out because otherwise it really does read as yet another conspiracy theory on the internet.
Despite already being familiar with such a person (in the form of Altman), for some reason you are trying to find minor reasons that they are different people, and it’s distracting you from the major reasons that they are actually the same people.
I can’t offer any more than that, because it’s all I have. It’s about observation not conspiracy.
I'm not trying anything, I want more information if it's available, otherwise it's all conjecture... Even though I dislike anyone at that level of power, the way you phrased things implied there was more information. You are just expressing an opinion and that's ok, just don't make it sound like there's more to it than that.
Extremely silly of course, but entirely in line with all the other news currently coming out of the US ;)
Src: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65898998
And the context is quite different. The complaint about Trump relates more to what he is doing. Your complaint about Biden relates to something a party invitee did.
I guess a similarity is an element of virtue signalling. But if that is something you have a problem with then you must really hate Donald Trump because that seems to be his entire presidency. And the fight against homophobia is a legitimately virtuous activity. Right and wrong do exist.
But When your consistently injecting Trump into every discussion instead of focusing on the real problem it detracts from the entire discussion.
There is no connection between Trump and Athropic cleanup effort.
Please see HN rule #1, this is not the community for that kind of discourse.
I think there's a wider damage done which there is no coming back from. And this is for the USA, not Anthropic.
The chance that sovereignty and rules such as this could be applied to AI was a concern that a lot of people had, but the risk was unknown.
Speaking for myself, I had guessed this would happen at some point of time. I was expecting/hoping it'd be years away.
However given the events in the last few days it greatly increases my concern with building any product which can depend on an on an API which could go away for a number of my customers.
I've been experimenting with other open weight models hosted in favorable sovereign countries for a few months, but this accelerates something which was an experiment to now being a must-have.
I don't think it is going to be easy for any of the parties to repair this easily.
Something is up
I just can't get his popularity, he isn't smart, he isn't a great speaker, his opinions on actually important stuff is often... just sad to hear, hyping up a 'bro effect and thats about it. Its like listening to that old buddy from primary school who struggled to get through high school, and now as an adult gathered some interesting opinions about the world, politics and humans that you really are not interested in.
Tons of better folks online, if somebody really has nothing better going in their short lives to listen to blahs for 3 hours, repeatedly. I guess there are worse ways to spend time though
These are overseen by U.S. Departments of State and Commerce, and forbid foreign nationals from access to any form of Mythos, either within or outside the U.S.
Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.
It appears that Anthropic does not have internal controls to implement these restrictions in any form, so the only option was to shut Mythos down.
Penalties for ITAR violation can reach ten years in prison and a million dollars per violation. (I can post a link to those details if there is any interest.)
As long as Anthropic is a U.S. company, there is no escaping this.
https://fortune.com/2026/06/14/how-a-warning-from-amazon-led...
It was my understanding that not even green card holders may access Mythos. Normally when restrictions like this are put in place, you need a exemption as a green card holder. A geen card is just a permit to live and work in the US. Its not the same as citizenship.
> Security Clearance: Green Card holders are generally prohibited from jobs that require high-level security clearances or sensitive government/military roles reserved exclusively for U.S. citizens.
How could restriction not be appropriate.
Like trying to move a missile industry from USA to EU.
Europe has extradition treaties, so the U.S. can force anyone in Europe back to the U.S. for criminal indictment who demonstrates inappropriate possession of this technology.
However, I think the US would treat this as treason (like they wouldn't want nuclear scientist to work for other nations).
He is probably reviewing many exit options today.
doesn't seem to be a political meeting, but rather a technical one. Maybe they'll review the jailbreaks and demonstrate that can be replicated in any model out there?
US admin: "Thanks for the warning, we'll do the same then"
This was an epic (and deserved) own-goal.
(btw heres what most likely happened, they refused to fix a jailbreak: https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2065853007619588171)
This is retaliation by the us gov for not unlocking Claude to use on their weapon. Not good for anybody
How unsurprising.
Amodei has always been and always will be a creep. Unfortunately too many people here don’t want to hear it about their favourite billionaire, just like they didn’t want to hear it about all the other sociopaths that tech has minted in the last 20 years.
Like at what point do the weird and random Amodei smears start to seem like an orchestrated attempt?
Apparently not enough of us have unfortunately, so you keep elevating them when you should know better.
So here I am trying to give you a heads up.
I know of Sam Altman's shenanigans from way before OpenAI (I used to be on reddit a lot more when `sama` appeared over there) but I have no idea about Amodei.
Help us out because otherwise it really does read as yet another conspiracy theory on the internet.
I can’t offer any more than that, because it’s all I have. It’s about observation not conspiracy.
I'm not trying anything, I want more information if it's available, otherwise it's all conjecture... Even though I dislike anyone at that level of power, the way you phrased things implied there was more information. You are just expressing an opinion and that's ok, just don't make it sound like there's more to it than that.
It could imply many things, in terms of how that actually manifests in their behaviour. But I don’t care about that at all.
I only wish us plebs would stop inflicting them on ourselves.