U.S. Midterms Have a Cyber Problem, but It's Not at the Ballot Box

(blog.checkpoint.com)

25 points | by gnabgib 1 hour ago

4 comments

  • avaer 53 minutes ago
    It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth.

    To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends.

    Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the only criterion is whether they can survive against other memes. Grounding in reality is an idea's death sentence, because of the bullshit asymmetry principle.

    And now the tools are there for anyone to generate bullshit at a scale commensurate to their wallet.

    I shudder to think what this means for elections. At least I appreciate that the article attaches some numbers to it.

    • elcritch 24 minutes ago
      These sorts of things did happen before the internet though. Think of the Cultural Revolution in China started by revolutionary university students.

      Mass printed pamphlets was the original meme. The more things change the more they stay the same.

    • loeg 35 minutes ago
      > And now the tools are there for anyone to generate bullshit at a scale commensurate to their wallet.

      This was always true, right? With enough $, you can employ N writers. But the constant factor is smaller than it once was.

      • Retric 30 minutes ago
        Only for relatively low values of N. It’s really difficult to scale organizations up and down for election cycles.

        Historically you’d quickly reach a point where each additional writer was more expensive than the last.

      • avaer 27 minutes ago
        There were times and places in history where truth was valued, respected, and rewarded.

        You could not employ N writers even if you had the money, because there were not enough good writers. And they needed to care about remaining adjacent to reality, or their reputation would (rightfully) be ruined as a fraud. Things were slow enough that the average person could see that they were being bullshat. These were the golden ages of human progress.

        It's not the world we live in today.

        • loeg 19 minutes ago
          The writers didn't need to be "good" for this kind of work.
    • stinkbeetle 9 minutes ago
      > And now the tools are there for anyone to generate bullshit at a scale commensurate to their wallet.

      Democratizing propaganda. Not sure the previous state of affairs where propaganda was accessible to the ruling class and their media corporations was better, it might have just seemed that way because there appeared to be less conflict when it came to them telling you what was in "your own best interest".

      I do have to say though, I certainly am enjoying watching the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the prior monopoly holders on propaganda though, lashing out desperately in the face of their waning influence. They want so desperately to censor the commoners (for our own good, naturally).

  • Brendinooo 56 minutes ago
    >Russian-linked Doppelganger operations have systematically cloned major media infrastructure (Reuters, The Washington Post, Fox News) using lookalike domains that replicate visual design and URL structure closely enough to pass casual inspection. This purpose-built impersonation infrastructure is supported by fake personas, AI-assisted content, and paid amplification across mainstream social platforms.

    Are there any live examples out there? Similar to how I like to look at scam/phishing emails to see how they work, I'm interested in seeing how sophisticated these are/are not.

    • jruohonen 46 minutes ago
      > Similar to how I like to look at scam/phishing emails to see how they work, I'm interested in seeing how sophisticated these are/are not.

      https://edmo.eu/publications/ai-political-influencers-the-ne...

      • stinkbeetle 34 minutes ago
        Are there any links to any of these Russian doppelganger propaganda sites? That seemed to just be a story about "influencers" and their AI slop.
        • jruohonen 31 minutes ago
          It is the world wide web so yes there should be plenty of links to those, but I do not have them.
          • Brendinooo 24 minutes ago
            I did do some searching and any link I found was already dead (hence me asking here!), so it's not really helpful to say "there should be plenty of links".
  • Jimmc414 13 minutes ago
    I strongly recommend anyone interested to do a quick search of the leadership of checkpoint.com and if they have ties to any foreign intelligence.
  • himata4113 14 minutes ago
    The problem with voting is that people are simply not engaged in politics anymore. I have never voted and never will.

    To be impactful you have to be a politician and that's a full-time job which lives off donations. We need more politicans, but we don't have a reward structure to support them so we have too few politicians which means the few are funded by powerful people making even fewer make the decisions.

    Just to make myself clear, when I say politicians I mean someone who tries to bring politican change, not someone who works in the government making decisions.

    Democracy sounds nice, but it assumes people want to participate in it: actively validate facts, find truthful information not just vote whoever promises more of what you like.

    Of course on the other hand you have the european federation: they are able to make unpopular choices, but at a steep cost which ends up hurting the member states and making the general population pretty hateful of the european central government.

    Governments are too big to change, but what we have doesn't work and we're probably going to be in a world of hurt as the american type democracy(japan, australia, etc) is being manipulated from all sides, federations are uncompetitive and dictatorships becoming the strongest government there is being able to accelerate faster than anyone else and becoming the defacto world power.