LLMs Are Closer to Religion Than They Appear

(theregister.com)

44 points | by sbulaev 2 hours ago

14 comments

  • freedomben 29 minutes ago
    > The report complains that when asked about the age of the universe, AIs just give the scientific consensus answer of 13bn years, never mentioning that young earth creationists believe it’s 600 [SIC] years old.

    Where do you stop once you go down this rabbit hole? Which faith(s) get their views injected in? Christian? Muslim? Hindu? Pagan Gods? Should I get the perspective of the follower's of Thor when I ask a question?

    Note that you can always ask for the religious perspective you're interested in. IME with the religion(s) I grew up in or know a great deal about, the LLMs are pretty good at answering accurately and respectfully. Nearly all the products already offer you tools to personalize the output for you too if you want to inject your faith into the answers, so it's not like the LLMs won't give you a religious perspective if you want it.

    • skeeter2020 0 minutes ago
      The analogy that jumps to mind immediately is "you get the wikipedia page by default, but have the option to explore the page's metadata (including conversations)." This feels reasonable, and how most people use wikipedia - which isn't surprising since you're often getting an LLM's output from the training on the exact same information. The complaints in the report seem to miss the point IMO, jumping to some form of artificial intelligence and applying it to what is text prediction that unsurprisingly reflects the body of human knowledge on which it is trained.
  • kilpikaarna 0 minutes ago
    Surprised if the Pope really cares about some Fair & Balanced coverage of Young Earth creationism. Isn’t the Big Bang official Catholic doctrine?
  • __alexs 13 minutes ago
    Basically all op-ed level pieces on AI make me feel like dialectic materialism really needs to make a come back. Public discourse has given up on engaging with the physical constraints of the world in a meaningful way.
  • JulianChastain 21 minutes ago
    > The report complains that when asked about the age of the universe, AIs just give the scientific consensus answer of 13bn years, never mentioning that young earth creationists believe it’s 600 years old

    Is certainly a typo, off by an order of magnitude. 600 years ago the Christian Church had already been around for more than 1000 years. Young earth creationists believe the earth is ~6000 years old

    • basisword 12 minutes ago
      Thanks for clarifying. I know they're nuts but the earth being 600 years when Jesus was around 2000 years ago didn't make any sense.
  • criddell 35 minutes ago
    I think this is the core argument:

    > [...] LLMs rely on internal universes derived yet decoupled from reality. Religions that deify their interpretation of their scriptures instinctively know this model and how to use it.

  • cesarb 10 minutes ago
    > Magnifica Humanitas is that rarest of treats, a 40,000-odd word AI policy document written in Latin.

    I stopped reading at this sentence. If you go to the source (https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/docume...), you can see it's available in eight languages, none of them being Latin. In fact, I read elsewhere a few days ago that one of the novelties of this one is that, unlike all the preceding ones, it's not written in Latin; the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnifica_Humanitas) also says that ("The encyclical was the first to be published without an official Latin version. This followed a recent change to Vatican regulations permitting such documents to be drafted in other languages.[4]").

    If the article gets it this wrong already in the third paragraph, it's not worth reading any further.

  • Ladioss 9 minutes ago
    When I first heard of "prompt engineering", my first thought was for the Pythia and Roman augurs.
  • Clent 10 minutes ago
    If there are enough people who want a Christian LLM, why hasn't one been made one?
  • alecco 17 minutes ago
    Very weak article even for The Register.
  • roenxi 34 minutes ago
    > There’s also the first stirrings of fun from the lawyers, some of whom are reportedly wondering whether Papa’s downer on AI is enough to give Catholics the right to refuse it in the workplace on religious exemption grounds.

    I mean, sure. Some communities, like the Amish are pretty famous for that attitude. It is a respectable option, but the practical upshot is it just means there are a bunch of jobs you can't do. There is a bonus that you get to be part of a pacifistic community because your military branch isn't going to be in a position to defeat anyone.

    • basisword 10 minutes ago
      It's a stupid premise given the pope didn't say anything even close to "Catholics should avoid AI".
  • 1970-01-01 14 minutes ago
    Jesus L.L.M. Christ. No, they are not a religion and never should be. Please stop associating AI with anything that resembles worship.
    • icedchai 1 minute ago
      There are a lot of people who are developing an unhealthy obsession with AI, both in their work and personal lives. It may not be a religion (yet?), but they are treating chat bots as nearly infallible, all knowing friends. The term "AI psychosis" is overused, but there is some sort of a mental illness going around. I'm not talking about teenagers, either. These are working adults in their 40's and 50's.
  • Frieren 25 minutes ago
    > The danger here is that this is not only an extension of the ‘Teach the controversy’ tactic that fundamentalists use to try and get one very particular kind of religion equal status to science and humanism in schools, ... > but that this is highly integrated with powerful political and financial forces.

    So, exactly like fundamentalist religion.

  • cryo32 25 minutes ago
    Bullshit in bullshit out.
  • xg15 31 minutes ago
    The linked article is also interesting: https://www.theregister.com/ai-ml/2026/05/27/anthropic-co-fo...

    A classic interview question used to be "where do you see yourself in 5 years?". What I'd like from the tech industry (and maybe also from the US government) would be an answer to "where do you see humanity in 5 years?" - because right now, I see lots of hype and panic, but little explanation what kind of vision should be realized with AI. Well, except overtly dystopian visions that could come right out of Marx' writings or a William Gibson novel. But even those aren't really self-consistent.

    • freedomben 23 minutes ago
      > What I'd like from the tech industry (and maybe also from the US government) would be an answer to "where do you see humanity in 5 years?" - because right now, I see lots of hype and panic, but little explanation what kind of vision should be realized with AI. Well, except overtly dystopian visions that could come right out of Marx' writings or a William Gibson novel. But even those aren't really self-consistent.

      The tech industry is made up of a lot of different people with different opinions/perspectives, so differing views is exactly what I would expect. And to be fair the views are pretty widely available for anyone curious. Tech industry leaders haven't exactly been quiet about what they think AI will do to/for humanity.