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  • tunesmith 37 minutes ago
    Unfortunately it will take longer for our bosses to walk it back. I feel like I'm fighting the battle daily, telling execs what kind of work LLMs do not replace... it's very slippery, they keep on doing the rhetorical texas two-step - I don't think they even realize they're doing it. We communicate that LLM is amplifying, they hear it can replace. "No, we need humans to help with specs" "But AI can help with that." "But only help, they can't come up with the idea." "Sure they can, we can just ask them."

    It's also amazing how hidden some of these realities before. Like, you assign a ticket to a developer, in the past they just wanted to know the develop was working on it and didn't care so much which work was what. They'd probably be so surprised to find out that a large percentage of implementation was deriving exactly what was meant by the jira ticket or the specification or the product person's intent. Which is all the stuff you have to work on before you can type in a prompt to an LLM. But now there's this pressure to believe that the developers only do the implementation part that the LLMs do, so they can pretend there will be major efficiency improvements. And it's really hard to explain to them what it is that developers even do.

    I know I'm not saying anything new here, but at least where I'm working all of these matters feel much more present than they did months ago.

    • crystal_revenge 10 minutes ago
      > "But only help, they can't come up with the idea." "Sure they can, we can just ask them."

      I've had multiple instances now where AI left to it's own devices has solved a tricky problem that I honestly didn't think it was capable of. I routinely have them design their own experiment loops, learn from each round and iterate on the process. Multiple times it has lead to a needle moving change with no need for human intervention.

      There are, of course, many cases where this is not true, but they're certainly more capable than I had previously thought and can solve an increasingly large range of problems on their own.

      Reading the comments here is like glimpsing in to either the past or an alternate timeline.

      There's tons of inertia in the system so don't expect change to happen over night, but reading "AI won't replace jobs" today feels a lot like when I used to hear "nobody will purchase things online!" back in the mid 1990s.

      • r4dd 1 minute ago
        These posts are so boring lmao.

        if you really believe this, quit the yapping and concentrate your portfolio for direct and indirect exposure to all frontier AI projects.

    • datakan 23 minutes ago
      It tells you a lot about your execs and how little they care, either for their employees or their customers. The quarterly profits are their God and they will worship at the altar of the stock price.

      Instead of finding ways to make AI enhance their employees and make them more productive, they immediately jump to ways to eliminate employees. It's the opposite of a growth mentallity.

      I'd love for these executives to show me a time when investing in people was the wrong choice. I've never seen a company punished for doing the right thing, caring for humans and providing a good work environment. This suicidal tendency in the corporate world to constantly decimate your workforce every cycle is just mind boggling and the fact the stock market responds to it so positively is horrifying.

      • andy99 8 minutes ago

          I've never seen a company punished for doing the right thing, caring for humans and providing a good work environment.
        
        We’ll see how this goes over but I disagree. You don’t have to look hard in tech, especially a few years ago, to find groups of coddled “workers”, doing very little or at least doing what they want instead of what a business and customers want. This paradoxically ended up creating toxic work environments, and making it impossible to actually get work out of people. We’re seeing a correction now.
    • FloorEgg 13 minutes ago
      That's exactly right.

      I hav set up a system where customer success and sales can drop in artifacts of customers talking about what they value (emails, transcripts, etc) and skills analyS them and then use them to add context to issues in the backlog.

      The idea is that everything in the backlog is tied to an explanation of who it benefits and how it benefits them. We're using AI to merge multiple sources and automate the writing of it. The hope is it streamlines that communication. Our backlog issues now are 3-4 pages that explain very clearly why the issue matters, what it's higher level goal is, etc.

      At first engineering was like "woa that's a lot of text" but after reading it was then "that's the best written issue I've ever seen".

      Okay, so cool we are streamlining product management and setting ourselves up to automate customer feedback to development pipeline, dramatically cutting down on that issue discernment bottleneck you're pointing at...

      ..except today I found an issue with critical hallucinations in it. It mixed up what the customer said and what the cs rep said, to the extent that the issue was just straight up incorrect. This was with Opus 3.7 extended thinking. (Mind you it was a big transcript and pushing the limits of context window, loading multiple skills, etc)

      So there's some serious potential, but it's just not there yet. Even if all this works flawlessly, the context these models can hold at once is like 0.1% of what a human can (if not less). So we will still need the humans for quite a while to make the harder decisions.

      This is in a very leading edge startup pushing the limits of what LLMs can do... And even in this context optimized for LLM success it's still no where close to replacing people. We get a ton of value out of LLMs, but let me clarify that the hold up isn't just fact checking, it goes way beyond that.

      In some ways I keep thinking it comes down to context management. Humans can hold so many orders of magnitude more context. Context is the bottleneck. The tech is a long way off being capable enough, and even when it is, there will be lots of operational and cultural obstacles to getting the right context into the AI.

      And then there is the jevons paradox consideration...

      It feels like we are a long way off. It seems plausible a generation from now employment will look very different, and I can kind of grasp how we get there, but I'm extremely skeptical of any unemployment apocalypse on a 5 year time horizon being triggered by AI. Maybe an unrelated economic shock, but not AI.

  • aresant 0 minutes ago
    This is an absolutely classic PR "submarine" effort to reframe the impact of AI

    Paul Graham has mandatory essay on this - https://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

    What is really going on?

    How about

    (1) More than 50% of Americans at this point are more concerned about AI than excited for it - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/03/12/key-findi...

    (2) Popular media is feeding into this zeitgeist with headlines like - "Prepare for an AI jobs apocalypse" eg - https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/05/14/prepare-for-an-...

    (3) There is a bright line between these articles and growing concern / pushback on the development of new data centers in both moratoriums and municipal cancellations.

    (4) Perhaps more materially the architects of AI are being challenged directly - in April Sam Altman's home was (a) bombed and then (b) shot at - in two separate incidents and the entire industry was just taken to task by The Pope! himself calling for acknowledgement of human limitation, grace, and dignity.

    (5) Meanwhile Sam and others are reframing including launching a new foundation to "increase quality of life and individual freedoms for people around the world" and pivoting messaging to AI "accelerating everyone in achieving their goals" https://x.com/sama/status/2059677202917331431 & https://x.com/sama/status/2057218997503086888

    Is this because the architects don't believe AI will be as disruptive as planned or . . . ?

  • blitzar 1 hour ago
    They won't be trillionaires with that attitude. They could have kept saying the line "Ai will replace all the jobs by the end of the year" for another 20 years.
    • eloisius 24 minutes ago
      “Companies that use AI well will replace the ones that don’t”

      I’d type that in alternating caps but I’m on mobile.

    • beepbopboopp 45 minutes ago
      If you think there is even a 2% chance you're going to need a government bailout over the next decade, you simply cant be calling your product the grim reaper.
    • citrin_ru 21 minutes ago
      A significant job loss will trigger a deep recession which will eventually hit most AI customers so they will have too few customers to be profitable. The best (for AI business) scenario is when productivity is increased without mass unemployment.
    • iammjm 57 minutes ago
      That’s the Elon Musk spirit!
      • analogpixel 47 minutes ago
        These Ai's will be full self driving next year.
        • Goofy_Coyote 12 minutes ago
          These Ais don't even need to arrive. They just are there. Always. Everywhere.
        • warumdarum 37 minutes ago
          These Ai's will be fools self driving next year.

          I see what your dialect did there. Can i quote you verbatim?

        • bfkwlfkjf 38 minutes ago
          These Ais can drive from a parking lot in new York to a parking lot in California now
          • analogpixel 34 minutes ago
            through the tunnel bored from New York to California.
      • postalrat 13 minutes ago
        Well that is the goal!
  • papichulo2023 1 hour ago
    It is kinda funny the irony of going from "we are going to replace devs" to "we <3 devs, keep burning those tokens"
    • throwaway613746 48 minutes ago
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    • zuzululu 1 hour ago
      I don't think its as big of a deal as its made out to be. They are human after all and have overestimated the capabilities of LLMs. What's more important is that this signals product market fit.
      • winfredJa 53 minutes ago
        They are backpedaling because AI backlash is slowing down their data center builds.
        • petre 36 minutes ago
          Molotov bombing Altman's front gate did not help AI apocalypse hype either
        • iwontberude 38 minutes ago
          Millions of Nvidia GPUs are stranded in warehouses right now with nowhere to be installed and some will be deprecated in less than a year. Good thing Micron and everyone in the supply chain is scaling up to make millions more... I am sure this will work out fine when they write down all of the inventory which is too old to install
      • philipov 32 minutes ago
        Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
      • freejazz 45 minutes ago
        > They are human after all and have overestimated the capabilities of LLMs

        They self-servingly overinflated the capabilities and now its coming to roost.

      • SirFatty 50 minutes ago
        "They are human after all.."

        Hahaha! Good one!

        • copx 42 minutes ago
          Cool it with the anti semitic remarks.
          • tinfoilhatter 3 minutes ago
            It's amazing how any rightful and just criticism of a Jewish person is automatically anti-Semitic. The only group of people with a special label for those that criticize them and the only group of people with a special label for those that ask questions about a certain historical event that involved them. Wild stuff.
          • hkt 33 minutes ago
            Probably a joke about AI?
          • ziocancer 24 minutes ago
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      • sublinear 44 minutes ago
        There are many humans without any skin in the game that accurately estimated the capabilities of LLMs.

        It has nothing to do with "being human". This wasn't about finding "product market fit" either. It was about griftin' while the gettin' was good. That certainly is "human".

  • CodeCompost 59 minutes ago
    I have to admit LLMs are actually quite useful at generating code for me, but I am experienced enough to know what I want. I use it as a next-generation autocomplete.
    • elliotec 0 minutes ago
      This is the "whole thing" in a nutshell for me too. It's useful, speeds some things up, but I've been doing this a long time.

      The state-of-the-art or medium-term future of the tooling doesn't feel apocalyptic in itself, but the macro forces, implications of scaling, and general reactions to it on all sides are a different story.

  • 0xbadcafebee 41 minutes ago
    To recap: 1) they developed and heavily pushed a technology they thought would result in mass unemployment, 2) they now believe they are wrong, so the market/government should definitely support their company going public. Which means that they were both intending to tank the economy and take your job away, and they were also wrong in their predictions, and now want to be rewarded for both with more money.
    • datakan 16 minutes ago
      It's almost like their business model was written by ChatGPT back when it was telling people to put rocks on pizza
  • guestbest 16 minutes ago
    In every AI prediction there is an obvious underestimating of the actual difficulties faced by workers and planners so the tool to automate those intelligent tasks always way underperform what a person is capable of with the notable exception of merging the automation with human tasks as an augment. And that is a totally ‘nother topic. But thanks for the investment money.
  • halamadrid 36 minutes ago
    They both hired some good publicists who is advising that change your tone and messaging to get the public to like and trust the companies.

    Initially the goal was to convince investors which is pretty much done and now its the retail/public that will value these companies once they IPO. Either way the job market is definitely impacted and is changing rapidly.

    Will one of these companies be the first to hit 10 trillion valuation?

  • dbvn 1 hour ago
    the damage is done. Why did they ever think it was a good idea to brag that they were going to destroy all middle/upper class jobs?
    • anthomtb 1 hour ago
      To market their product to c-suite people.
    • energy123 45 minutes ago
      Because it helps to raise capital at low costs if your investors and creditors think you're going to replace all labor.
      • 2fer 19 minutes ago
        lol dont ever comment on finance ever again.
    • vrganj 36 minutes ago
      Class blindness. Their buddies all love the idea of showing pesky workers their place.
    • dyauspitr 44 minutes ago
      Because that was the truth. Now they have learned they are going to have to lie to the people so the masses can be sleepwalked to the same eventuality.
      • solumunus 36 minutes ago
        I suppose we’ll see.
    • reducesuffering 46 minutes ago
      They were being earnest. People can't handle the truth, so now they're doing PR comms.
  • simonw 34 minutes ago
    OK, this is weird. The article says:

    > OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, in an interview with Commonwealth Bank of Australia CEO Matt Comyn on Tuesday, said he was “pretty wrong” about AI’s economic impact—a reversal from his June 2025 warnings that entry-level roles were at serious risk.

    But the link to the interview goes to this 2m11s YouTube video, and he doesn't use say anything of the sort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAhbsKZ-_bg

    Here's a full MacWhisper transcript (easier to search than the YouTube one): https://gist.github.com/simonw/ba0fe174cb7306b74ddf08589a027...

    UPDATE: It turns out the article was linking to a short highlights video, but the interview itself was 45 minutes long.

    I don't think the full video is available anywhere, so it's hard to confirm that "pretty wrong" quote.

    This Reuters story carries the same quotes and, unlike the linked Fortune article, doesn't sit behind a paywall: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/openais-altman-sa...

    • foolswisdom 29 minutes ago
      There's a partial corresponding quote at https://www.commbank.com.au/articles/newsroom/2026/05/sam-al....
      • simonw 18 minutes ago
        That's a better link, thanks. Not much substance there about this though!

        > One of the areas where he personally had been wide of the mark was on AI’s short-term impact on entry-level white-collar jobs, which had not been nearly as bad as he had once predicted, he said. “I’m delighted to be wrong about that.”

        I'm not sure that justifies a whole "Sam Altman ... walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions" headline, personally. It's pretty thin.

        But... we still haven't seen the full interview, so there might be more to it. The Fortune article also includes:

        > Altman added that he’s taken a lot of flack for his hype, but better safe than sorry.”People are like, ‘Oh you could have saved the world a lot of fear mongering and a lot of doom and gloom’ but at the time I was like, ‘I see this is a real risk we should probably talk about it.’ and it still may.”

    • cactusplant7374 19 minutes ago
      Altman has said he thought AI would have a bigger impact.
  • simonw 12 minutes ago
    Fortune articles are behind a paywall, which makes them a bad fit for Hacker News.

    This Reuters story carries a similar idea: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/openais-altman-sa...

    I'd warn that this all looks pretty thin - there are a couple of partially supporting quotes from a 45 minute virtual conversation Sam had with the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (CBA) conference on Tuesday, but they don't look strong enough to me support the "walking back AI jobs apocalypse" framing. See also this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48315157

  • metalliqaz 20 minutes ago
    Public sentiment has turned strongly against them. They can try to take it back, but I don't think they will be successful. Nobody is buying the fiction anymore. Everyone knows that any proceeds from the technology will not be shared. The ownership class will take everything and leave the ecological impact to be dealt with by the same people they laid off.
  • b0sk 29 minutes ago
    This feels orchestrated (someone made a phone call to them). Look at this a16z tweet : https://x.com/a16z/status/2059687657840713925?s=20
  • okasaki 59 minutes ago
    The scam was that the US needed private industry to bootstrap technology that's mostly going to be used for surveillance analysis and building kill matrices.
  • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 41 minutes ago
    Saying people are going to lose jobs at least sounded like we were at the cusp of something special. Now it just seems like we are going to get Opus 4.8.1 that supposedly helps somehow according to benchmarks.

    Guess they have found their market and this is it.

  • Analemma_ 1 hour ago
    Of course, the fact that the statements they made confidently for years are now hastily getting undone in the face of public backlash only further cements their reputation as snakes who can't be trusted farther than one can throw a bowling ball. For a while there I actually respected Amodei for sticking to his guns on the job loss thing, it seemed like it was his genuinely-held belief and he was going to keep saying the truth even if it was unpopular, but never mind.
    • NateEag 38 minutes ago
      Is it possible Amodei has revised his opinion after his predictions were empirically proved false?

      I haven't looked at how long he's been predicting job destruction, so I don't know if that explanation fits the facts.

      • bcrosby95 24 minutes ago
        As a general rule the least charitable interpretation of a CEO's words are probably the most accurate. Considering the increasing backlash against AI this sounds more like a PR move than a change in actual belief.
        • 2fer 21 minutes ago
          Their identity in regards to history is centered on destroying jobs. So they will never let that go.

          Its gonna be funny seeing the eventual ego melt down when the labour market continues going on.

  • booleandilemma 58 minutes ago
    CEOs aren't a big enough target market. They need their slop machines to appeal to the masses as well. I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing more advertising with that in mind, something like the ads Apple has but marketing their AI.
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