4 comments

  • radiospiel 57 minutes ago
    An interesting combination of features.

    Personally, I have used nullmailer in the past to provide a sendmail compatible local install that immediately forwards email to the SMTP server of my choice. Has worked flawlessly.

    Obviously, that doesn't come with HTML form support, but then I am also not sure I would like the same binary to handle both a HTTP(S) endpoint and email submission :)

    • craigmccaskill 6 minutes ago
      Nullmailer's a good call for a single-app use case. It's basically what I was doing.

      Posthorn ended up the way it did because I had three different things all hitting Resend at the same time: a contact form, a couple of apps that only had SMTP email support and some scripts I wanted to email results from. I didn't want to have to maintain three different things doing functionally the same routing. Putting them in one binary helped me consolidate credentials and logs.

      You're not wrong about the split though, I thought about breaking the two out. I'd originally written the http form handler as a caddy module (which I called caddy-formward to be cute) but ultimately I went the other way because the code after the ingress is the same regardless of how you come into the service and I didn't want to rewrite all that logic.

      Have you encountered a similar issue with multiple apps where nullmailer hasn't been enough? Curious how you handled it if so.

  • npodbielski 1 hour ago
    > Nobody wants to self host email server.

    I do. Though I am self hosting it to have my personal email, being well... personal. Not for my company so maybe I am not the target.

    Interesting project though. I always felt missing API to just send emails from some script in my mail server.

    • craigmccaskill 32 minutes ago
      Personal mail is the one case I think where hosting your own MTA still makes sense when you want to own the addresses and the data. You still have to solve for deliverability, which is something I hope to never have to do.

      Posthorn is built for the opposite end of that, you've already decided you want to use a transactional provider for app mail and you just want to stop having to deal with wiring it into all of the things. Obviously for a big production app you build your own mail service, but for gluing together a bunch of different apps you're self hosting, I think this makes sense and addresses a real issue.

      If you want an API piece to augment what you already have, Posthorn might still be useful regardless of how the rest of your mail is set up. A Posthorn JSON endpoint is just a POST with Bearer auth and an idempotency key. Example from my docs:

      curl -X POST https://posthorn.yourdomain.com/api/transactional \ -H "Authorization: Bearer $WORKER_KEY_PRIMARY" \ -H "Content-Type: application/json" \ -H "Idempotency-Key: reset:user-123:$(date -u +%FT%H)" \ --data '{ "to_override": "bob@example.com", "subject_line": "Reset your password", "message": "Click here: https://app.example.com/reset/abc" }'

      Could run alongside your existing mail server. It's a small enough overhead that the juice might be worth the squeeze.

  • throwaway81523 1 hour ago
    Is Posthorn a reference to W.A.S.T.E.?
  • ranger_danger 1 hour ago
    Don't services like SES already operate over 443/TLS and aren't blocked?
    • craigmccaskill 15 minutes ago
      Correct, but not all apps can talk directly to an HTTPS API. Ghost, Gitea, Mastodon, NextCloud, Authentik, Matrix to name a few all only have built in SMTP support. Posthorn listens for that connection from those apps locally and translates it into whatever your transactional mail provider needs.

      If all the apps you're running can already integrate via HTTPS API, Posthorn doesn't solve anything for you in that case, unless the unified credential, single retry policy and logging meaningfully simplifies things for you.

      And honestly, SES was the easiest integration for me to write (even if it ended up being the most LOC), their documentation, examples and error responses gave me a really easy time setting it up. Additionally, because it does need such a verbose implementation SES ends up being a great case study for Posthorn and not needing to maintain the same 200 line signing routine in multiple different places.