Flipper One Tech Specs

(docs.flipper.net)

79 points | by gregsadetsky 2 hours ago

11 comments

  • jgrahamc 1 hour ago
    I have a Flipper Zero and I've used it... occasionally. Like that one time controlling the Taylor Swift Eras tour wristbands: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/05/controlling-taylor-swift-eras-t... but it's mostly sat around being an odd device.

    I duplicated a couple of RFID things, used the IR for some stuff, and once in a while used the radio receiver, but mostly it looks pretty.

    I'm not sure what I'd do with a Flipper One, but I guess I've done a lot of things with Raspberry Pis so... maybe?

    • tonyarkles 42 minutes ago
      I had similar feelings but the comments below about adding an SDR to it with an M.2 slot got me looking a little closer. This has an 8-core Rockchip A72/A53 processor and 8GB of RAM. This is not an incremental improvement over the Flipper Zero, this is something else entirely. Hmmmmm...
    • abr0ahm 3 minutes ago
      It's about time someone rolled out a watch that has these capabilities.
    • sam_lowry_ 38 minutes ago
      Heh... I used Flipper Zero to clone RFID tags for all the neighbors to T5577 rings, pins, sticky pads and whatever not for our gated community.

      If you are adventurous, many ski stations have low-tech cards as well, although they also tend to have human controllers once in a while.

      And, finally, kids like running around with Flipper Zero opening power taps on Teslas.

    • maciejb 31 minutes ago
      I had plenty of fun reverse engineering a 433.92 MHz protocol curtain motors at my house use. Once that was done and I taught first my Flipper Zero, then a RPi with a C1101 to actuate the motors, the Flipper is sitting idly in the drawer.
    • maplant 19 minutes ago
      I plan on using it to create a backup password/2FA device... eventually
    • quietsegfault 35 minutes ago
      I have done exactly the same type and amount of stuff with my flipper zero, probably in the target demo. still, no complaints! I think the one is a cool toy that I will one day (if I’m lucky) use as the perfect solution for a problem. If I can do that just once, it’ll be worth the price for me.
  • sterlind 1 hour ago
    maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all.

    imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.

    • rkourdis 58 minutes ago
      They added an M.2 port [1] to which you can attach a variety of modules, including SDR (eg. [2] 30 MHz - 11 GHz).

      [1]: https://docs.flipper.net/one/hardware/m2-port/modules [2]: https://www.crowdsupply.com/wavelet-lab/ssdr

    • johnwalkr 27 minutes ago
      The flipper zero was already in a grey area because it easily enables one to do things in licensed bands and do things you’re not allowed to do in unlicensed bands. They can’t plausibly add even more functions in this area and still sell to the public. Presumably all of the interfaces they added are for users to add the functions under their own responsibility.
  • mschuster91 0 minutes ago
    No NFC, no 1-wire, no IR? That's some tough losses :(
  • arjie 13 minutes ago
    Interesting. No IR/RFID/NFC? That's the primary use of my Flipper Zero. So this is meant to be a different device rather than a successor.
    • Kikawala 5 minutes ago
      The 3.5mm audio jack can be used to plug in an IR emitter.
  • elil17 46 minutes ago
    Why the AI voice assistant? What? Is this perhaps a prank? That doesn't line up with the ethos of the Flipper Zero
    • beepbooptheory 17 minutes ago
      Where does it talk about a voice assistant?
      • perryprog 8 minutes ago
        The first image which annotates the controls has a "Push-to-Talk button" which is used for "Voice communication" and "AI assistant activation".
  • s_dev 45 minutes ago
    I've heard some professionally inclined RFID engineers dismiss these as mere toys and not useful compared to professional grade hardware. Perhaps some of those folk are on HN if so what are the tool sets you actually use that can be sold to the public?
    • K0balt 28 minutes ago
      RF design is very much an art, and the difference between works and works really well without harmonics and noise is a matter of design subtleties and often expensive parts. There are decent SDR setups around $500-700 that are known to be pretty good, but you have to go out of your way to buy them from the actual design houses, because despite being “identical”, the clones are not the same. In RF, the devil is in the details.
    • panki27 36 minutes ago
      Not too far from the truth. The Flipper is good as a toy, but for serious RFID things you want a proxmark 3 clone with Iceman firmware ;)
  • vivid242 29 minutes ago
    A Swiss army knife of the day - after all, Swiss Army knives also serve a psychological purpose. And they do it well!
  • dgellow 28 minutes ago
    Side question: anyone know what they are using to make those 3d schemas with highlights?
  • vegadw 1 hour ago
    Looks both expensive and power hungry, will be interesting to see how that works out
  • ge96 1 hour ago
    Finally a legit prop for movies not a pcb taped to a TV remote

    I like that subreddit too with the e-ink display wifi probing thing forget what it's called oh pwnagotchi

  • janci 1 hour ago
    Why put such crappy display on such a high power device?
    • filcuk 23 minutes ago
      That's pretty simple - the chosen display is best for core usage. Cleay visible in bright sun or dark, sharp angles, easy on the battery. For anything else, there's a HDMI out isn't there.