Apocalypse Early Warning System

(ews.kylemcdonald.net)

63 points | by carlsborg 5 hours ago

10 comments

  • acidburnNSA 1 hour ago
    I made something like this in like 2007 called Apocalypse Feed. It took in a few factors and aggregated them into a 0-to-100 number that updated and published over RSS. First it pinged debian mirrors around the world and made a map based on mirror city's lat/long: green for online, red for offline. If there was a cluster of red, that part of the world was considered gone. Then it checked space weather data and nearest asteroid, increasing the value if it was looking bad. It scraped news headlines looking for key words like zombie, pandemic, virus, war, bomb, etc. These fed into a pie graph showing what "type" of apocalypse was most likely at any given time.

    It was all fun and games until my VPS host banned me for pinging too many people every few mins.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110516084503/http://www.apocal...

  • Rygian 1 hour ago
    I'll ask the obvious: wouldn't the aircraft just take to the skies directly, without bothering with the formality of setting their transponder, if they were knowingly escaping an apocalypse scenario?
    • esseph 1 hour ago
      Don't want to get shot down?
    • wat10000 57 minutes ago
      Colliding with other planes is going to impede your escape plan, so it would still be a good idea to turn the thing on. No further action needs to be taken for the ADS-B output to be correct, it works once it's powered on.
    • walrus01 1 hour ago
      In a theoretical scenario of the billionaire class of the world having some kind of "advance warning" of the apocalypse, they'd be taking to the air in the hours or several days prior to a total disaster happening. Meaning this would be done while the local governments were ostensibly still functioning, in which case you can't just have your private jet depart without active ADS-B and in-the-clear voice traffic for ground, and air traffic control coordination.

      If governments and airspace control have already collapsed, post tense, then of course anything goes.

  • decker 1 hour ago
    Fun idea of a metric, but if I'm reading this correctly, we get roughly one apocalypse warning per year?

    > Level 5 is calibrated so only the highest daily peak in the trailing year should exceed it.

  • jandrewrogers 1 hour ago
    This has the same issue as many other types of event warning systems based on noisy, incomplete data.

    The latency of constructing a semi-reliable warning signal from the data sources described significantly exceeds the latency of event onset. You can modify the algorithms to reduce latency but then the false positive rate skyrockets. Not what you want for an "apocalypse" early warning system.

    To mitigate this you need more data from more diverse sources and lower latency feeds.

    • PorterBHall 24 minutes ago
      Is it the end of the world or just Davos?
  • bottlepalm 36 minutes ago
    Do you think that rich people are on some sort of private 'end of the world' mailing list?
    • gyomu 30 minutes ago
      No, but they have spent tens of millions of dollars on a go bag —> helicopter to private jet -> bunker in New Zealand preplanned route and you haven’t.
      • lostlogin 20 minutes ago
        Good luck to them. Having Luxon or Peter crawl up their arse on arrival will have them wishing for a fiery death.
      • neilv 19 minutes ago
        Good luck to the billionaires in a real collapse scenario, when their security and support staff can decide that the billionaires are counterproductive, and vote them out of the survival bunkers.
        • user2722 15 minutes ago
          You clearly haven't read articles where they said they were pondering all their employees in those bunkers to have explosives in their neck...
    • petercooper 26 minutes ago
      Bloomberg Terminal chat?
  • beej71 1 hour ago
    There was a Sci-Fi book I read where this was a service provided to rich people. Basically you signed up for it, and you'd get a text when everything was about to go down. Time to drop everything and fly to your bunker.
    • andrewla 1 hour ago
      This seems like an area rife for a scam, like hurricane insurance or earthquake insurance. You pocket the money, and when disaster strikes, who is going to sue you when you do nothing? If there was a real bunker-worthy event then all your insurees have been devoured by zombies or dissolved by radioactive strings or whatever.
    • ashleyn 1 hour ago
      This is essentially the premise to Fallout, or at least the leadup to it.
      • jshier 14 minutes ago
        Also Paradise on Hulu, or at least the setup there as well.
  • NunoSempere 1 hour ago
    I have something somewhat similar at <https://blog.sentinel-team.org/>, tracking events that could kill over a million people.
  • gambiting 48 minutes ago
    >>we suspect that many people who have access to private jets will immediately take to the skies and escape city centers

    Why would that be true? There would never be enough warning to get to the airport and take off anywhere, even if everything else was still working perfectly.

  • singpolyma3 1 hour ago
    in case of Apocalypse you think they're all filing flight plans?
    • prerok 56 minutes ago
      If it's early enough, they would have to. And in case it's a false positive, they would be liable.

      All this to say, I actually find the thing hillarious, though. If there's an actual apocalypse a plane will not save you.