Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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50 points | by jasoneckert 2 days ago

3 comments

  • phwbikm 48 minutes ago
    Cant believe somebody is still using windows server? What’s the use case?
    • jayd16 34 minutes ago
      Building Unreal games. Running windows containers.

      Windows server is actually kind of awesome for when you need a Windows machine. Linux is great for servers but Windows server is the real Windows pro. Rock solid and none of the crap.

      The worst part of Windows server is knowing that Microsoft can make a good operating system and chooses not to.

      • jamesfinlayson 9 minutes ago
        Yes I only recently understood why people use Windows Server as a desktop operating system - it looks and feels like old Windows.
    • scorpioxy 16 minutes ago
      An application that is only supported on MS Windows. Yes, those still exist. One project I am working on is supporting such an application that is a mix of desktop and web application talking to industrial monitoring devices.

      It's a beast in terms of complexity, in my opinion. But the vendor only supports running it on specific configurations.

    • haik90 40 minutes ago
      I hope we migrate our stack to Linux soon, but I think that’ll take few years.

      I know big company that run their core on Windows Server 2012, I’ve no idea how they manage the software assurance and compliance

    • parineum 11 minutes ago
      Companies that aren't technology companies but use technology that has been doing the job for 20 years.
      • ssl-3 3 minutes ago
        What was the reason 20 years ago?

        (I know, I know. That question might be a bit too loaded. I'm really very sorry. No, there's no need that; I'll see myself out.)

      • theandrewbailey 3 minutes ago
        Those don't exist. I was told (over and over again) that every company is a technology company.

        mild \s

  • stackskipton 1 hour ago
    As former Windows person who still uses fair amount of Powershell on Linux, I was interested.

    However, reading the summary left me confused like you don't understand what's happening at Microsoft.

    > Hopefully Microsoft will spend more time in the future on their server product strategy and less on Copilot ;-)

    The future product strategy is clear, it's Linux for servers. .Net runs on Linux, generally with much better performance. Microsoft internally on Azure is using Linux a ton and Windows Server is legacy and hell, MSSQL is legacy. Sure, they will continue to sell it because if you want to give them thousands of dollars, they would be idiots to turn it down but it's no longer a focus.

    • p_ing 28 minutes ago
      Azure services run on [customized] Hyper-V, thus Windows Server.

      Azure networking is Linux.

      EDIT: Marvel at the NT4 style Task Manager [0].

      [0] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/a...

    • keithnz 1 hour ago
      in no way that I can see is MSSQL or Server "legacy".
      • Alupis 1 hour ago
        The only people using MSSQL Server are people deep, deep in the Microsoft ecosystem. Think government work, and those unlucky enough to work at a pure Microsoft shop where every problem looks like a Microsoft or Azure solution.

        It's not a dominant database anywhere on the outside.

        • magicalhippo 26 minutes ago
          We're a B2B shop migrating to MSSQL, from SQL Anywhere. Managed MSSQL in Azure is fairly easy operationally, especially since we don't have a dedicated DBA and our support staff aren't SQL gurus.

          However since we now got the tools for running on both, and experience migrating, we might be moving to PostgreSQL at some point in not too distant future. Managed MSSQL in Azure is not cheap.

        • icedchai 46 minutes ago
          Heh. State government is the only place I've encounter MSSQL in the past 10 years.
          • Loudergood 42 minutes ago
            It's common as the backend to a lot of SMB scale ERP and CRM solutions. But almost all of those run on SQL Express.
            • thewebguyd 35 minutes ago
              Which can also run on Linux now.
      • aninteger 1 hour ago
        It's "legacy" because it's essentially tied to Windows. Yes, technically it works on Linux, and no doubt that was an amazing feat, but no serious company is running MSSQL on Linux when all the documentation, all the best practices are all based on running that on Windows.
      • chaps 1 hour ago
        On the flip side, every single MSSQL instance that I've encountered has been legacy. For at least five years.
        • Incipient 40 minutes ago
          For mid sized businesses, where you're mostly just doing some business reporting, a single mssql instance makes for a great and very cheap 'data warehouse'. All the auth magically works for people to connect with Excel, and powerbi+cloud just works out of the box.

          I'd be curious what a better/non-legacy solution is! (as I do this stuff haha, and don't see much else other than full cloud options, sf etc)

          • chaps 11 minutes ago
            These days I think airtable and other "no code" systems fit this bill well.
  • p_ing 2 days ago
    Typical approach on an HV server is to disable C States, set power management to high, etc preventing x86 from downclocking. Keeping the CPU from seesawing can have big improvements.

    But you’re not going to do that in a lab/personal machine, usually.