Tell HN: docker pull fails in spain due to football cloudflare block

130 points | by littlecranky67 2 hours ago

13 comments

  • danirod 51 minutes ago
    Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found".

    Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that means".

    Meanwhile, there are testimonies of smart home devices like anti-theft alarms or automatic doors, that stop working whenever there is a football match, because their backends rely on Cloudflare.

    Last week, a woman asked for help on social media, as the GPS tracking app she uses to see where her father with dementia is, went offline during a match. It was getting late and he still wasn't back home, and she couldn't locate the tag he was wearing to find him: https://www.infobae.com/america/agencias/2026/04/05/laliga-d...

    It's hard to say this, because no one should experience an event like this, but as stressful as these are, it's the only way to make the mainstream people care about this censorship. "I cannot pull a docker image" will never be on nightly news, but safety and personal security is a more powerful driver for discourses.

    • freetanga 31 minutes ago
      All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.
      • pixl97 1 minute ago
        Yep, flood them with complaints.
  • mrvaibh 32 minutes ago
    This is a great example of why blanket IP blocking is such a terrible enforcement mechanism. Cloudflare hosts hundreds of thousands of services behind shared IP ranges — blocking one IP to stop a piracy stream takes out everything else on that IP, including Docker registries, API endpoints, and CDNs that have nothing to do with football.

      The real fix on your end until Spain sorts this out: set up a pull-through registry cache (e.g. registry:2 with proxy.remoteurl) on a VPS outside Spain, and point your Docker daemon's mirror config at it. Your
      GitLab runner pulls from the cache, the cache pulls from Docker Hub via a non-blocked IP. Also insulates you from Docker Hub rate limits.
    
      But yeah, the fact that a court order about football streaming can break docker pull for an entire country is genuinely absurd.
  • utrack 1 hour ago
    They block the whole of Cloudflare R2, I believe the Docker hub is just (heh) a collateral.

    When the La Liga match starts, everything that's proxied via CF (including zero access reverse tunnels) stops working.

    There's even a website made for checking if the match is on: https://hayahora.futbol/

    You can check if your host is affected: https://hayahora.futbol/#comprobador&domain=docker-images-pr...

    • mr_mitm 1 hour ago
      Why do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
      • quadrifoliate 49 minutes ago
        Here's a good English-language article about it, with a timeline: https://daniel.es/blog/cloudflare-vs-la-liga/

        Looks like same old regulatory capture.

      • prmoustache 34 minutes ago
        Because LaLiga and football in general is what is governing Spain really.
      • bakugo 13 minutes ago
        The website has a language selector on the right just below the initial screen, just FYI.
      • ShowalkKama 51 minutes ago
        to """"""""""prevent piracy""""""""""
  • pjc50 59 minutes ago
    This is why technology businesses and professionals need to take a little bit of an active role in local politics. Otherwise you get nonsense.
  • sigio 1 hour ago
    Time to use a VPN in your docker pipelines ;) Or run your systems outside of Spain.

    Or can this be avoided by using an alternate DNS?

    • darkwater 1 hour ago
      They are planning to also block VPN providers during football matches, see https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/la-liga-w...
      • prmoustache 41 minutes ago
        When talking about VPNs, it doesn't have to mean "third party VPN". You can host your own on any VPN service outside of Spain.
        • darkwater 26 minutes ago
          Yes, but that's not something many can do easily. Also already having to use a VPN is not the "right" solution. The right so solution is to beat some sense inside some politician's head, and force them to write and approve laws that don't let stupid (or conniving) judges pass orders like this one we are talking about.
      • Mordisquitos 1 hour ago
        They are not "planning" to block VPNs. A technologically illiterate judge has ordered it, but there are no plans nor mechanisms to enforce it.
        • darkwater 29 minutes ago
          The exact same stupid mechanism they are already using. Forcing ISPs to blackhole whole subnets if they belong to the VPN provider ASN(s).
        • chrismustcode 58 minutes ago
          If they can block IPs of cloudflare what extra mechanisms would be needed to block VPN IPs?
          • mr-wendel 2 minutes ago
            It's a game. The VPN marketplace is huge so it's wack-a-mole.

            Big companies don't hide their VPN ASNs. Obscure, for sure, but getting a good list isn't hard. Usually they get blocked.

            Smaller companies may pass under the radar, and have higher tolerance for risky strategies.

            The fringe providers are the problem. They aggressively change IP ranges, front-vs-obscure ownership, and play dirty. Shady folks will resell residential ranges. End-users often get tainted goods.

            ... and you still have the collateral damage game when VPNs host infra with big cloud providers vs colofarms vs self-host, etc.

          • chmod775 49 minutes ago
            The only viable way to even get most of them is to shut down internet access entirely. It's not a realistic solution, unlike blocking a few well known IP ranges belonging to a large corp like Cloudflare.

            And even if you managed to get them all beforehand, some VPN providers will adapt and keep some servers in reserve, putting them online just as you managed to block the previous ones. Getting around internet censorship is a large chunk of their business, and some are really good at it.

      • ufocia 1 hour ago
        "A _Sanish_ Court has ordered NordVPN and Proton VPN to block IPs transmitting illegal football streams" [emphasis added], that is inspain.
    • skgsergio 59 minutes ago
      Alternate DNS doesn't help, they block at IP level.

      Yes, they block IPs belonging to CDNs (CF including R2, BunnyCDN, CDN77, Fastly, Alibaba, Akamai even)...

    • littlecranky67 20 minutes ago
      It is not a DNS based block, but on the IP level. Once I knew what caused the issue, I figured I use one of my Hetzner vServers as an exit node in tailscale.

      But come on, this can't be true. I wonder how many other people in IT wasted hours on issues and tickets to find out it is due to a football match taking place. Admittedly, chances are low, as football matches are usually outside of office hours.

  • vaylian 1 hour ago
    This is a know issue and it is completely fucked up: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/cloudflar...

    What Spain does is basically censorship and it's very poorly executed. The docker image registry is only one out of the many collateral victims of this stupid law.

  • anthk 1 hour ago
    CF could just sue LaLiga and the judge as interrupting and intercepting telecomms it's a really serious crime in Spain. Call the AEPD too because of consumers' right against both ISP and LaLiga's snooping. Another huge fine.

    This is not an issue under the civil code (civilian issues), but something to be dealt under penal (criminal) code.

    In Spanish

    https://www.fiscal.es/memorias/memoria2020/FISCALIA_SITE/rec...

    Oh, and BTW, LaLiga has just partnered with a CF rival.

    Now CF can just sue both like hell because of unfair competition:

    https://nitter.tiekoetter.com/xataka/status/2042658662850724...

  • jimaek 1 hour ago
    Off topic but I wonder when Cloudflare is going to launch their own Docker registry as a product.
    • wqtz 40 minutes ago
      Well, Cloudflare does not launch anything. They acquire to build products. Look into all their recent product launches. They acquired a relatively small company and converted the founding team to a product team.

      So, if you want them to build stuff, ask yourself, are there any "Docker Registry" startups out there. If jsdelivr/globalping is not keeping you busy enough... there is an idea

      • jimaek 22 minutes ago
        Honestly I would build it if I knew how to properly market it to quickly get users.

        Globalping and jsDelivr took years to gain a meaningful user base

    • ImJasonH 1 hour ago
      It's pretty easy to write your own. I made this one a while ago: https://github.com/chainguard-dev/crow-registry
    • vaylian 1 hour ago
      What would the business case be?
      • jimaek 1 hour ago
        Capture developers and funnel them to the Workers platform
  • richwater 28 minutes ago
    Spain is a failing country. Their economy is in shambles and the government has ceded internet control to a private corporation who runs football games.
  • ahachete 1 hour ago
    Yeah, I know. Welcome to the club :(

    https://x.com/ahachete/status/2035783292549755228

  • anthk 1 hour ago
    Yea, La Liga it's crapping out as always. Docker needs either some I2P gateway, or a Tor service.
  • mathfailure 1 hour ago
    Cloudflare is cancer. And the tumor is now too big.
    • Cpoll 1 hour ago
      You've got it backwards. Spain's ISPs are blocking Cloudflare and other CDNs because of LaLiga/football piracy. CloudFlare isn't doing anything here.
      • jbxntuehineoh 3 minutes ago
        cf is failing to comply with Spanish law and as a result is being blocked in Spain
      • sph 1 hour ago
        You are correct, but Cloudflare is still a cancer on the Internet.
        • petcat 54 minutes ago
          Rampant bot traffic and scrapers are the real cancer. Until that goes away everyone is going to need cloudflare or some other bot firewall service.
    • skgsergio 57 minutes ago
      I can agree on how much power on the global traffic they have, but this blocks affect many other CDNs like Fastly, Akamai, CDN77, BunnyCDN, Alibaba...
    • petcat 1 hour ago
      Spain is mandating their ISPs block cloudflare to stop people from illegally streaming soccer games. Cloudflare isn't the one doing the blocking.
    • StrLght 58 minutes ago
      You made a few typos in "LaLiga"
    • ufocia 1 hour ago
      How so?