A Tour of Oodi

(blinry.org)

54 points | by zdw 2 days ago

4 comments

  • fsloth 2 hours ago
    Really nice building and space.

    The article summarizes the functional parts so well. What is very hard to communicate is the feeling of space, especially in the top floor with the books. It's sort of unique, and recommend a visit anyone traveling nearby.

    I worked at the company that developed the software used to design the construction of Oodi (Trimble/ Tekla Structures). It's so awesome to walk through a building you know the tool you helped to build, helped to build :D

  • zokier 1 hour ago
    To me the actual book section of Oodi is not particularly interesting/inspiring/impressive. It's not bad, but it is pretty mundane and gets overshadowed by all the other stuff going on in the building.
    • calpaterson 37 minutes ago
      Fair, but it is part of a pretty large library system and you can order whatever you want to pickup at Oodi
    • sfeng 1 hour ago
      Famously the actual main library at Pasila has a much larger book collection. Oodi is more of a community space / show piece.
  • emilfihlman 26 minutes ago
    It's awful as a library, mediocre as an event space and not really good as a hacker space.

    It's beautiful, though, but that's about it.

    t. a Finn

  • cxr 1 hour ago
    This is the future of libraries, and it sucks. Austin's downtown Central Library is like this. It sucks. They are not places for reaching the future.

    Previously:

    > So many environments nowadays, even the ones that are ostensibly created to fulfill this sort of thing, are just total failures at actually providing them. I'm thinking of things like public libraries. I live in Austin and have a major axe to grind about the public libraries here, which are nothing like what you'd get if you were actually interested in the pro-social goals that you'd think a public library would have in its charter. A teenager looking to escape their high-risk environment or an adult who's had their feet knocked out from beneath them basically stands no chance at getting out of their predicament if their only option were to use the public libraries here, which would unfortunately act more like a vortex to ensure they stay in the suck. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42323264>

    The photos and breathless wonderment showcase it all, as well as this choice line from the slide at the top of this post: "Oodi is our common living room". These are not quiet places to study or get (back) on your feet.

    These are non-commercial substitutes for the shopping malls of yestercentury first, egoistic art pieces and boondoggle for administrative make-work second, and well-intentioned but poorly thought out and executed public resources at a very, very, very, very, very distant third.

    • stevekemp 23 minutes ago
      Why would somebody wanting to escape a high-risk environment, or some knocked-over adult go to a library?

      It's great that libraries exist, be they in Austin, or here in Finland, but they're not where you get support when falling on hard times , or needing active support and assistance from your council/government/city/region. A library is not a walk-in rescue center, and nor should it be.

      Oodi is a pretty space, it has nice facilities, although a surprisingly small stock of books. That said you can order books to collect them there, and Helsinki has no shortage of "real libraries". I think Oodi as a showcase, and a random mishmash of services and facilities is pretty good though. I went almost weekly with my youngest child for a few years, and have fond memories of the people I talked to, and the soft-play area.

      • cxr 5 minutes ago
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    • TFNA 42 minutes ago
      As a Helsinki resident, I agree with much of what you say about Oodi. And in spite of the other commenter claiming "everyone" loves it, I don't nor do many of my peers of an intellectual bent, mad about books. This building only disappoints us.

      But here is the thing: in Finland academic libraries are open to the general public. Someone wanting to immerse themselves in actual books, or work in silence, have a wealth of options in downtown Helsinki: the University of Helsinki main library, the Finnish National Library, the Finnish Literature Society's library, the Research Institute for Languages of Finland's library, and more. So, if Oodi ended up being a plain old social third space instead of a "real library", that didn't take anything away from Helsinki residents.

      • aifhyahdhd 32 minutes ago
        > So, if Oodi ended up being a plain old social third space instead of a "real library", that didn't take anything away from Helsinki residents.

        Taxes and corruption.

        • TFNA 17 minutes ago
          Nah, I might be a hermit and misanthrope who prefers books to people and hates crotch goblins running around, but I can still see the value for general society of a third space open to everyone, young and old. Especially when many people are hurting these days from lack of IRL contact, and the alternative would be expensive for-pay locations like coffee joints or pubs.
    • fastforwardius 42 minutes ago
      I mostly agree with you.

      I find Oodi (and Sello after redesign) to feel like a typical open office space (rather than mall) but definitely not like a proper library.

      Rikhardinkatu is what I'd expect library to be while Lippulaiva is rather nice for a library that's part of a mall.

    • Sharlin 57 minutes ago
      Happily, Helsinkians don't agree. Everyone seems to love Oodi.
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