Too Much Color

(keithcirkel.co.uk)

23 points | by maguay 2 days ago

4 comments

  • rekabis 2 days ago
    > The magic number to remember is the "Just Noticeable Difference" (JND). For dE00, JND is around 2.0. Below that, people struggle to tell two colours apart. Below 1.0, basically no one can.

    Except for a tetrachromat. Specifically, a strong tetrachromat that has both four colour channels in the brain and a different frequency on the fourth cone.

    Who are, admittedly, hella rare. Apparently there are less than a few dozen confirmed world-wide.

    But they do exist.

    • lucideer 30 minutes ago
      > admittedly, hella rare. Apparently there are less than a few dozen confirmed world-wide

      What's actually hella rare is tests for tetrachromacy. Given the total number of people who have ever taken such a test, I think it's reasonable to assume there are significantly more than a few dozen actual tetrachromats out there.

    • snarkconjecture 1 hour ago
      Computer screens have three-dimensional color spaces. Tetrachromacy doesn't change that.
      • tgv 1 hour ago
        Is that so? Our color perception is weird. It's one dimension split in three overlapping sectors. Adding a fourth sector may add information that makes it easier to distinguish colors.
        • Jensson 44 minutes ago
          We do have four sectors, 3 color perception and then the brightness perception that is used in the dark. In mid darkness you get a mix of all of those, although the fourth is not really perceived as a color so it can be a bit hard to use.
      • Zardoz84 15 minutes ago
        And the eye cones not are sharp filter, they overlap ranges with mid-low sensibility. That must be nought to someone with Tetrachromacy to percibe something different on a RGB screen.

        > More precisely, she had an additional cone type L′, intermediate between M and L in its responsivity, and showed 3 dimensional (M, L′, and L components) color discrimination for wavelengths 546–670 nm (to which the fourth type, S, is insensitive). Source: Wikipedia

    • xyzsparetimexyz 1 hour ago
      > But they do exist

      Do they?

      • IAmBroom 1 minute ago
        Do you doubt genetic and microbiological science?
  • jacknews 3 minutes ago
    lol, the website reminds me of tropes like the professional cleaner whose house is messy, the chef who eats instant noodles at home, or the haut couture fashion designer who only wears jeans and tees. The colour expert whose website is monochrome.
  • cratermoon 2 days ago
    What's My JND? 0.0089 Can you beat it? https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=A30iKP__7_Hb #WhatsMyJND
    • footydude 42 minutes ago
      0.0042 apparently https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=AaYkKP___-u-

      There's was 2 or 3 where i had no idea, guessed and was a way off.

      There's was 1 where i did a hail Mary and got it. It was interesting how some even towards the end were really obvious and others were really subtle - I'd say I did better with purple tones and worst with the blue / greys.

    • halflife 6 minutes ago
      0.0021
    • tgv 1 hour ago
      I'm color blind, and not even a little bit, but I scored 0.0084. I've noticed before that my perception of contrast is slightly better (than that of the people I ever compared it with; admitteldly, that's only a handful, but they weren't colorblind).
    • xiconfjs 1 hour ago
      What's My JND? 0.0032 Can you beat it? https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=AUEjKP___831 #WhatsMyJND

      I need a better display for sure :)

    • WalterGR 1 hour ago
      Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47321188

      “Show HN: What's my JND? – a colour guessing game” 54 points | 8 days ago | 62 comments

    • Jensson 38 minutes ago
      That mostly depends on the quality of your screen.
    • cafebabbe 1 hour ago
      Only with chrome devtools :)
  • sophieraiin 45 minutes ago
    Am I pretty?? (story)