Just Put It on a Map

(progressandpoverty.substack.com)

31 points | by surprisetalk 4 days ago

6 comments

  • AlfredBarnes 4 minutes ago
    Was cool to see a few of the cities, and then cross reference with some searches on pricing to get a better understanding of the actual cost.
  • korkoros 43 minutes ago
    The overall claim is true - yes put it on a map.

    But I'm not a fan of these particular maps because the use of 3d makes them harder to read. The isometric view and rotation away from north at the top break conventions that people use to orient themselves in the map and connect it to their lived experiences on the ground. I'm reasonably familiar with NYC geography, and I could not immediately recognize the landscape I was looking at in these maps. Ironically, it was only because I already knew the answer to the question that I could do so: "oh that huge green spike must be Manhattan".

    I think a 2d choropleth map with a diverging color scale centered on the mean value would work better.

  • svcphr 15 minutes ago
    > "1. People have wildly incorrect intuitions about where land value is concentrated"

    Fwiw this sort of land value gradient has been studied in economics for ages. See papers on monocentric city model, going back to Alonso (1964), Muth (1969), and Mills (1967). Or even further back, von Thünen was talking back in 1826 about how land values spike as you get closer to the marketplace.

  • ancillary 1 hour ago
    Is "land value" the right term here? The NYC example uses assessed property value, which I think is a function of both the land under a property and the building itself. In that case, these "taller means more valuable" graphics are at least partially reflecting the fact that a tall building is probably more valuable than the short one next to it?
    • svcphr 21 minutes ago
      Land and "improvements" are assessed separately, and I believe this is plotting just the assessed land values. In the small text about each map, it says to use the settings to switch to full assessed value or improvements. But still, it's very hard to actually assess land value in an area like Manhattan where there are basically no land-only transactions
    • francisofascii 17 minutes ago
      It is a good question. The author seems to use the field "assr_land_value", and there is also an "assr_impr_value". So it very well be correct.
  • the_sleaze_ 58 minutes ago
    > Show an elected official

    What is the problem this visualization seeks to make obvious? Is it just neat to think about and make?

  • xnx 1 hour ago
    Probably fun to make but harder to read compared to a bar chart.