A ternary plot of citrus geneology

(jlauf.com)

103 points | by jlauf 2 days ago

6 comments

  • fritzo 1 hour ago
    Inheritance is astonishingly more complex than trees, e.g.

    Wong et al. (2024) "A general and efficient representation of ancestral recombination graphs" https://doi.org/10.1093/genetics/iyae100

    • jlauf 36 minutes ago
      Interesting, going to read more!
  • jihadjihad 7 hours ago
    A Persian lime is a cross between a Key lime and a lemon? I never would have guessed that, that's really interesting.
  • ok_dad 6 hours ago
    This is cool! I do wish I could search for a specific citrus by name.
    • jlauf 2 hours ago
      Thanks! I'll add it when I get a chance.
  • smlacy 5 hours ago
    Seems to be missing the Etrog? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_taxonomy#Citrons

    Also, the "click to show search results" is cool but fails for "Arizona Citron" in obvious ways.

    • jlauf 2 hours ago
      There are lots of citruses missing; the ones in the chart are only the ones I could find reliable values for (from the sources at the bottom). I'll add more if I can find other reliable sources. For what it's worth, I think the etrog is basically a pure citron variety.

      Yeah, that's definitely an issue. If I get a chance, I'll curate images to add!

    • pazimzadeh 1 hour ago
      I couldn't find the Seville orange, or what Iranians call Narang

      Nevermind, they have the "Sevillan Sour Orange" and a few other sour oranges

    • s0rce 1 hour ago
      I think the etrog is not a hybrid so it would overlap with the citron
    • madcaptenor 4 hours ago
      Apparently it's also known as the Greek citron, but I don't see it under that name either.
  • hammock 2 hours ago
    Missing kumquats (and calamondins and mandarinquats)
    • s0rce 1 hour ago
      they discuss that, they were not hybridized to the same extent. They do discuss the key lime ancestry as orthogonal, it would be cool to use a tetrahedron instead to show that.
  • davidw 4 hours ago
    Now I wish I could try all of these.
    • s0rce 1 hour ago
      There is an annual citrus festival in Riverside, CA where many hybrids are developed.
    • dheera 4 hours ago
      Just walk around San Jose residential neighborhoods, all the combinations are literally dropping everywhere.
      • cwmoore 3 hours ago
        There was a great pomelo tree around the corner from me a few years back.