10 comments

  • 1123581321 1 hour ago
    This is a good article about some of the legal particulars. https://www.heraldnet.com/2026/02/24/snohomish-county-judge-...

    The defense of the photos not being government business until accessed seems shaky. That the physical camera installations were purposeful intentions to conduct government business in those areas is a reasonable line; this doesn't set precedent for Google's information becoming public records because the police might do a google search, to use an extreme example.

    The proposed legislative amendment that would exclude Flock footage from public records (which would make this judgment moot) makes sense in the light of red light cameras already being excluded by the same legislators. However, I'd like to see a more incisive law covering both that would compel a reasonable amount of public insight into the footage.

    • CamperBob2 36 minutes ago
      The defense of the photos not being government business until accessed seems shaky.

      It's reminiscent of the NSA's argument that data "collection" occurs only when a search is performed on existing "gathered" data. File under "Stuff that's only legal when the government does it."

  • cj 1 hour ago
    URL is 404'ing. Another article..

    > Cameras that automatically capture images of vehicle license plates are being turned off by police in jurisdictions across Washington state, in part after a court ruled the public has a right to access data generated by the technology.

    https://www.geekwire.com/2025/washington-state-cities-turn-o...

  • chkaloon 17 minutes ago
    Awesome. I think I'll put in an open records request for the cameras down the street in my little Wisconsin town. See what happens
  • dzink 1 hour ago
    The link is broken. Here is a working one. https://www.king5.com/article/news/community/facing-race/was...
  • N_Lens 12 minutes ago
    "The masses/general populace are the enemy" - once you understand that this is the fundamental belief at the root of the elites behaviour, everything will make sense. Flock cameras and AI surveillance is designed to reign in 'the enemy'.
  • SlightlyLeftPad 1 hour ago
    Does them removing it simply because it’s public record imply that they were up to no good?
    • chaps 1 hour ago
      They're not removing cameras.

      > For now, Everett’s Flock camera network remains offline, as the debate over transparency, privacy and public safety continues in the Legislature. The bill in Olympia that would put guidelines on Flock's data has passed in the Senate.

    • timschmidt 1 hour ago
      Well if they had nothing to hide... /s
      • SlightlyLeftPad 1 hour ago
        > “We were very disappointed,” Franklin said. “That means perpetrators of crime, people who are maybe engaged in domestic abuse or stalkers, they can request footage and that could cause a lot of harm.”

        No concern over the dozens (or hundreds?) of cases of police or government employees themselves doing exactly what they’re afraid of here. Strange.

        • timschmidt 10 minutes ago
          Or for what can already be purchased from a data broker on the open market.
  • altairprime 1 hour ago
  • hyperific 59 minutes ago
    According to the article, the Flock cameras are still in place but are "offline".

    Why does that not convince me?

    • bl4kers 25 minutes ago
      Are there cameras pointed at the offline Flock cameras? I sure hope so because it would be a shame if they disappeared...
  • fuzzfactor 1 hour ago
  • GiorgioG 1 hour ago
    Great now let’s follow suit in all 50 states.