H-Bomb: A Frank Lloyd Wright typographic mystery

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95 points | by mrngm 3 days ago

11 comments

  • chris_engel 1 hour ago
    Nobody speaks about the way larger spacing between "AND THE" in comparison to the other spaces...
  • zem 2 hours ago
    I will admit I lost interest after it was revealed that the letters had been replaced several times and that the original was most likely correct. "frank lloyd wright messed up the orientation of an H" has a bit of interest to it; "some random later person messed it up" has none.
    • JohnCClarke 8 minutes ago
      A long and venerable litany of spaceflight disasters would beg to differ:

      - Apollo "Little Joe" A-003 (May 19, 1965): A roll gyro - Proton-M Launch Failure (July 2, 2013): Yaw sensors - Genesis Space Probe (2001): Accelerometer

      Getting things the right way round is very important.

  • parpfish 7 hours ago
    Im curious if the mounting points for the letters had 180deg rotational symmetry. If they didn’t (such as a mount point on the crossbar in the H), that’d go a long way to explaining “correctness”.
    • Cerium 6 hours ago
      The second image in the article clearly shows screw holes in the letters. The H appears to be perfectly symmetric for 180 degree mounting.
  • vessenes 8 hours ago
    For the love of all this is holy, do not read this article. If the internet has taught has anything, it's that you cannot unsee an image - I predict you will not be able to unsee upside-down H's (and even an S) post-reading. Save yourself.
    • JohnCClarke 6 minutes ago
      If you ever want to watch a movie again, do NOT work on codecs. Just saying.
    • NooneAtAll3 1 hour ago
      if you don't know what Wilhelm scream is, DO NOT RESEARCH
    • WillAdams 8 hours ago
    • readthenotes1 7 hours ago
      It reminded me of PG wodehouse's characters who would study newts. The British Gentry had nothing better to do with their time
  • weinzierl 2 hours ago
    Given that there had been wrongly installed letters continuously since at least 1956 and we have no proof that an entirely "correct" version ever existed, I'd consider the inverted H historically accurate and I hope it won't ever get fixed and especially not as an overreaction to the article.
    • shmeeed 1 hour ago
      Given that the original drawings did show all letters in the orientation that's obviously correct for the font, I'd be hesitant to say the upside-down installations were ever historically accurate. It most certainly wasn't FLW's vision.
  • greggsy 7 hours ago
    I was initially interested but after skimming through I questioned if this pedantic detective tale needed to be told…

    Just send an email to the board of trustees / body corporate and move on.

    • tptacek 4 hours ago
      Please don't. We'll spend $500,000 tracking down what happened.
  • emmelaich 8 hours ago
    • peddling-brink 8 hours ago
      That is hidden behind a paywall. The curious part of me wants to know what the guy said, but the logical part of me knows it was likely little more than “oops”.
  • jsdalton 9 hours ago
    I was more bothered by the extraneous word spacing on the second line, between “and” and “the.” Is it just me?
  • knallfrosch 3 hours ago
    All this because some guys installed the letters wrong?

    Is this some kind of joke, or is the author really lost in some conspiracy-level detail tracking, hunting for "hidden signals"?

    • NooneAtAll3 1 hour ago
      I think you need to touch some grass if you don't know the difference between curiosity (searching for the answer and evidence) and conspiracy (inventing answer out of nothing and ignoring the evidence)
  • nacozarina 2 hours ago
    ppl with this sort of mania should be allowed to collect disability and stay home
    • NooneAtAll3 1 hour ago
      1) it's called a hobby

      2) it's called research and there are whole ministries dedicated to answering random questions like this one

  • brudgers 1 day ago
    I would not be surprised if the manufactured letters and their installation was based on hand hand drawn letters.

    That it is not aesthetically obvious, suggests it was drawn that way and not a mistake. Good typography is subtle and bespoke typography even more so.

    • mjg59 9 hours ago
      The article makes clear that the orientation of the lettering has changed over time, which counts against the idea that what it is now necessarily reflects the original intent.
      • brudgers 9 hours ago
        Fair enough.

        To me the evidence in the article still suggests that “hard correctness” is probably not historically appropriate…hand lettering is not a typeface.

        That’s really where I am coming from — the perspective of historical architecture, historical architectural practice, and historical methods of delivering buildings.

        In particular, today’s mythological Wright is not the 1908’s historical Wright on a commercial jobsite. And the contractual relationships of a 1908 construction project were not delineated like current construction projects.

        • saghm 4 hours ago
          And yet the article shows the original sketches Wright made for the building that show the asymmetrical H's with the bars aligned with the bars on the E's (i.e on the upper half) in virtually identical font to what was eventually installed.

          I don't really see how you can come away with the conclusion that this suggests lack of intent; at most, it seems like you had already formed the opinion that there was no intent, and you didn't find the evidence to the contrary convincing enough that you were wrong. I don't think your take is necessarily wrong, but I don't think it's fair to characterize the evidence as suggesting what you're saying.